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Topic: Growing up gay under Eisenhower
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lagatta
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posted 08 August 2004 06:35 PM
Pigeon, I don't quite get your point - that postwar US society was particularly repressive towards young people with same-sex desires? I doubt things were more enlightened then on this side of the border. Hell, I don't even think straight sexuality was talked about much in public, let alone gay desires... My parents were rather old, like a lot of people who didn't start families until after the end of the Second World War. It has always been very hard for me to discuss sexuality with my mum - though I did get the menstruation and facts of life lecture, joylesslessly, although she wasn't religious or right-wing in other ways. This is a reason not to give up in despair. Both feminism and gay rights have made huge steps in a relatively short time, although alas this is in a context of late capitalist attacks on social progress, which distorts both movements. But it was horrible for gay and lesbian people in decades past... Is this thread title in response to a book, film, TV documentary or something? I thought there would be a link to something.
From: Se non ora, quando? | Registered: Apr 2002
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Hephaestion
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posted 10 August 2004 01:44 AM
How do we reach the kids, especially before their minds become polluted with the same kinds of crap, Pigeon?We reach out to them though things like diversity classes. The problem is, too many knothead "hets" think classes like these are all about "brainwashing" their kids, or "recruiting" them or something equally stupid. Or they use religion as a fig leaf to hide or justify their hatred. So they pull their kids out of school, rather than risk having their prejudices challenged. And even when it's not in the schools, but merely on the television, or is the subject of a survey or an academic paper, the subject gets shouted down by the religious moralists— who are often the ones to scream the loudest about "free speech" if someone takes them to task over their hate speech. But you don't give up, Pigeon. There's still racists, all these years after Martin Luther King, Jr. But there's less of them. All we can do is do all we can, and hope that we will get through to more of the kids that the bigots do. I've read surveys that show that the vast majority of support for SSM comes from the under-30 crowd. So I have hope. It may be slow, but we're winning.  [ 10 August 2004: Message edited by: Hephaestion ]
From: goodbye... :-( | Registered: Dec 2003
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