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Doug
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posted 25 March 2008 12:05 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You do this and they send the police after you - if you're a researcher, you get a grant.

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Researchers at Indiana University's school of medicine plan to use cellphones to track the movements of 160 14- to 16-year-old girls over the course of a year in an effort to better understand the connection between specific locations and bad behaviour.

"If we know there's an area of town where an adolescent girl is more likely to engage in some sort of risky behaviour, then we could potentially program those phones to deliver an intervention," Sarah Wiehe said.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080325.wltrackers25/BNStory/lifeFamily/home

Great...stand too long in a parking lot and the phone will tell them not to have sex.


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remind
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posted 25 March 2008 12:11 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Paternalistic BS, why just girls? I guess girls are the only "bad" ones eh?!
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Doug
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posted 25 March 2008 12:29 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
Paternalistic BS, why just girls? I guess girls are the only "bad" ones eh?!

Because boys will be boys, you see, and getting into a certain amount of trouble is natural for us. So goes the popular narrative, anyway.


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martin dufresne
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posted 25 March 2008 12:58 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
boys will be boys
Oh... do you also believe that "Caucasians be Caucasians", so there is nothing to be done about racism? Or that "poverty will always be with us"? I want a RW clichés thread!!!

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kropotkin1951
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posted 25 March 2008 01:00 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gee Doug did you change your handle to Popular Narrative?
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sknguy
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posted 25 March 2008 01:06 PM      Profile for sknguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
Paternalistic BS, why just girls? I guess girls are the only "bad" ones eh?!

No kidding, this will certainly reinforce, in these youths minds, our already skewed expectations of them. Not to mention this project smackes of more cell phone services charges too. I wonder who's funding it?


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martin dufresne
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posted 25 March 2008 01:35 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Migration patterns of the horny adult trick"? Or of the duplicitous hedge fund manager?...
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Doug
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posted 25 March 2008 03:10 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by martin dufresne:
Oh... do you also believe that "Caucasians be Caucasians", so there is nothing to be done about racism? Or that "poverty will always be with us"? I want a RW clichés thread!!!

I didn't say I believed it, but that's why boys aren't in the study. Which is also too bad in a way because they could test a feature where if a boy's phone and a girl's phone get too close together, they both get sent anti-pregnancy messages.


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Le Téléspectateur
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posted 25 March 2008 03:42 PM      Profile for Le Téléspectateur     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
sounds like those shock collars for dogs
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martin dufresne
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posted 25 March 2008 04:20 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tu ne crois pas si bien dire:
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Many cellphone companies promote "geo-fencing," a service that notifies parents when their child approaches physical locations they have tagged, such as a boyfriend's house or a dangerous neighbourhood.

It would be interesting if children were allowed to geo-fence parents and check on their whereabouts - "oh damn, he's at the videopoker machines again!"

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Le Téléspectateur
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posted 25 March 2008 05:15 PM      Profile for Le Téléspectateur     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Scary technology.

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"There were some cases where they actually screamed because they couldn't believe how well it tracked them."

It's hard to believe that this is informed consent?


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martin dufresne
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posted 25 March 2008 05:39 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hope the kids will think of packing all their GPS-tagged cell phones in a box and sending them off on a long bus trip while they chill out in a basement somewhere, watching the news on TV...

[ 25 March 2008: Message edited by: martin dufresne ]


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Cueball
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posted 25 March 2008 06:07 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Le Téléspectateur:
sounds like those shock collars for dogs

The ones for dog owners who don't like dogs?


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Lost in Bruce County
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posted 02 April 2008 06:47 AM      Profile for Lost in Bruce County        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Teenage girls being monitored... sounds like a police state where surveillance is used as a means to coerce young girls into obedience under the rhetoric that "it's for her own protection". I must ask, protection from what? Bad areas of town? Why wouldn't we try to make all neighborhoods desirable places to be by investing in public services and infrastructure? And who is being monitored? It's not just teenage girls - it's white, middle to upper class teenage girls - ones deemed to be worth investing in. The poor girl who can't afford a cell phone obviously won't be monitored. And what about the girls who actually live in these "bad" areas of town? How does this cell phone plan protect them? It doesn't. What the cell phone monitoring initiative actually does is maintains a class divide between the wealthy girls who need protection from the working-poor girls who are believed to be a bad influence on the wealthy girls. This plan works in the interests of dominant society. Maintaining this divide prevents wealthy girls being forced to confront their privilege, and allows them to grow up in a world of ignorance and bliss of the harsher realities faced by their sisters in the "bad" neighborhoods. This plan relieves parents of parenting responsibility - instead of teaching your daughters to make choices that are good for them, they just intensify surveillance (it's like the human version of electric dog fences). The plan also relieves politicians of responsibility to make all neighborhoods safe and desirable.
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Michelle
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posted 02 April 2008 06:52 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't have a problem with this study. The girls have given informed consent, presumably they can withdraw from the study at any time, all of the information tracked remains strictly confidential and won't be told to their parents or anybody. What's the big deal?
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