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clockwork
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posted 20 August 2003 03:45 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Imagine a widely used and expensive prescription drug that promised to make us beautiful but didn't. Instead the drug had frequent, serious side effects: It induced stupidity, turned everyone into bores, wasted time, and degraded the quality and credibility of communication. These side effects would rightly lead to a worldwide product recall.

PowerPoint Is Evil

I bet the Iraqi invasion was planned on PowerPoint...


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paxamillion
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posted 20 August 2003 04:20 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Where I can, I use mind maps instead.
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paxamillion
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posted 20 August 2003 04:27 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Wikipedia entry on Powerpoint also has lots to say -- including a U of T prof that likens it to a disease.
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Mush
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posted 20 August 2003 04:36 PM      Profile for Mush     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have a theory - the average total amount of time spent preparing a presentation before and after Powerpoint is the same. With Powerpoint most of this time is now spent screwing around making slides, whereas it used to be spent reherasing, thinking about what to say, etc.

Undergraduates love powerpoint, because they think they can throw the text away and simply study the slides.


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clockwork
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posted 20 August 2003 04:40 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You think the "Jim Gray, communications coach" in the Wikepedia link is actually James Gray, the communications coach who writes for the Globe?

What's with the Canadian content?


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paxamillion
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posted 20 August 2003 08:24 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mush:
Undergraduates love powerpoint, because they think they can throw the text away and simply study the slides.

Which we address by tucking some questions out of the text and not covered in class on exams.


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Michelle
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posted 20 August 2003 08:57 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No, undergrads love PowerPoint because it's usually used by professors who are seasoned enough to recognize that hardly anyone's learning style is accomodated by sitting in a lecture hall listening to a professor rambling through a disorganized lecture, never emphasizing main points for their students who are feverishly taking notes, talking in circles, or using atrocious visual aids like overheads done in 12 font, single-spaced print, or (horror of horrors) reading their lecture off sheets of paper, or reading their lecture off the aforementioned overheads. PowerPoint is usually used by professors who are well-organized, and want to present their material in a way that makes it very clear what they're trying to get across to students.

I had a professor who did all of those icky things I mentioned above. When students suggested that he be more organized and use more effective visual aids, he said "I'm not going to spoonfeed you". In other words, I have the right to be a shitty teacher because I have a PhD and I can intimidate you into not complaining by making disparaging remarks about your intellectual ability if you do.

One of the best professors I ever had used PowerPoint. Another one of the best professors I ever had did not use PowerPoint, but had excellent hand-outs so that students could really listen to what he was saying instead of scrambling to write everything down so they could go back later and pick out the main point. One of the worst professors I ever had used PowerPoint. He was well organized, but he always went off onto tangents that were self-indulgent, and spent way too much time on "housekeeping" (like demonstrating the class web site for the first hour of every class for the first three weeks). The very worst professor I ever had did not use PowerPoint.

PowerPoint is a very effective tool for organizing main points and keeping a professor on track and helping his listeners keep what he is saying fresh in their minds, especially if they're discussing difficult concepts. Sure, it can be misused. Sometimes people depend more on the cutesy visual effects than on the content. But that hasn't been my experience for the most part with professors who have used it. It's cheap snobbery to assume that visual aids are for the intellectually dull.

[ 20 August 2003: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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badlydrawngirl
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posted 20 August 2003 09:13 PM      Profile for badlydrawngirl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
is someone dis'ing ppt? BLASPHEMY!!

other than the fact that it doesn't 'speak' with other microsoft programs well, ie. importing word or excel docs can be a bloody mess, it's a good standard and an effective tool.

my problem now, though, is i'm more into illustrator etc and ppt is like those etch-a-sketch toys in comparison. never satisfied me.


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Boinker
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posted 20 August 2003 09:39 PM      Profile for Boinker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am having fun with power point. I just completed a presentation that explains other computer systems that have had "new" enhancements added. The systems being ancient green screen systems in a mainframe enviroment are neatly contrasted by the zippy new PC environment.

The thing is that powerpoint is very user friendly compared to something like Photoshop or any number of other programs with animation in them.

Hats off to microsoft on this one.

But the projectors are $4000.00 and require a poweroutlet. Hardly something suitable to the local Engleian lecture at the next Popesquat!


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Gir Draxon
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posted 20 August 2003 09:40 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Depends on how creatively you can use it. For example, you should make very minimal use (if at all) of the default wallpapers and clipart. I use Paintshop Pro to do almost all my graphics. Some of the PPT wallpapers are ok, but custom ones or gradients look better.

Another trap that people fall into is using the effects/transitions inappropriately. There is a time for flashy transitions, but most often something very quick and simple is best. And unless it is imperative to your presentation, please automate the actions of the objects on the slide. Nothing is more irritating that that incessant clicking because the presenter has to click the mouse button for each word to appear on his/her slide.

If you are savvy and know how to use powerpoint in conjunction with other tools, it is a wonderful tool. But if you are one of those people who just learned hot to use that funny typewriter with the TV on top of it, please for the love of God stick to the classical methods of making a presentation.


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posted 20 August 2003 10:28 PM      Profile for Mush     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle-

Woah! Jumping the gun with the "intellectual dullness", I think. I'm talking about laziness...dullness is a whole other issue.
I agree with you that sometimes Powerpoint can be a good tool for keeping a lecture organized. I've found it particularly good for statistics, because it also saves me from writing formulae over and over, or drawing badly on the chalkboard. I've sat through classes myself in which we had to copy things down from an overhead- a complete waste of everyone's time.

But there is a lot to be said for a lecture which you need to actually pay attention and follow. A talk with a beginning, a middle, and an end. A narrative from which the listener is able to sort out the important points and transitions from their content and context, not because they are bulleted. I do think that a lot of younger people (I include myself here), being raised on (yes, I'm gonna say it) TV, naturally expect a certain um..."clarity", or at least that they shouldn't have to work too hard to follow. Many are very, very unhappy if they leave a classrooom and everything is not absolutely clear.

Of course, there are a lot of different students out there. Also a lot of lazy lecturers, you're right.


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posted 20 August 2003 10:49 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I suspect I've seen about 2000 Powerpoint presentations. Some are as dull and disorganized as the person giving the talk. Some are well-organized and thoughtful. Some have involved the presenter reading what's being projected -- I've left some of those.

I think that it can make a good presenter better, and a weak presenter seem worse.


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posted 21 August 2003 01:11 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've seen good Powerpoint presentations and bad ones, as well. Some of my professors use it and some don't. One of my worst professors would squinch text that was OK on a wide screen onto Powerpoint slides and then have us print them the way he PDF'ed them, which was 6 slides to a page, with the end result that the text was squinched up so small you needed a microscope to read them, which was especially excruciating for the acid-base equilibria stuff.

The best professor I have had so far used Powerpoint to briefly summarize each previous lecture, and then would go to the overhead projector for the actual lecture. I liked that synthesis.

The professor of organic chemistry that I took this summer would do all his lectures on Powerpoint. The biggest defect of this is that while it meant that he could concentrate on the lecture and just tap a key occasionally, organic chemistry can't be taught that way. It is virtually a requirement that students have to see reaction mechanisms get drawn out for them to see the connections. Since organic chemistry relies heavily on mechanisms, this is why I think the class averages were so low - few people could grasp the mechanisms very well.

As an aside I'll be sitting in on the organic class next semester as there's room in my schedule for it, so I get to re-learn organic from the ground up with a better professor.


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posted 21 August 2003 02:47 AM      Profile for Pogo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I remember my boss putting a whole delegation of Chinese medical administrators asleep. To be fair they had just arrived the previous day and the schedule was horrendous, but watching a man who is very engaging in English try and work through it with a translator was hilarious. By the end of the presentation 10% of the people had their heads down on the table and had to be shaken awake for the rest of the tour.
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posted 16 December 2003 10:59 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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NASA, the board argued, had become too reliant on presenting complex information via PowerPoint, instead of by means of traditional ink-and-paper technical reports. When NASA engineers assessed possible wing damage during the mission, they presented the findings in a confusing PowerPoint slide -- so crammed with nested bullet points and irregular short forms that it was nearly impossible to untangle. ''It is easy to understand how a senior manager might read this PowerPoint slide and not realize that it addresses a life-threatening situation,'' the board sternly noted.

it's so true!


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