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skdadl
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posted 31 January 2003 04:45 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Has anyone else read the current and (as usual) mostly brilliant issue of Harper's?

I did this morning. Ever since, I have been thinking about opening a vein, or falling on my sword, or something.

The meditation about present-day Washington is very beautiful, if deeply depressing. The end of days, right there, in those mansions a-building in Virginia.

Lapham's editorial -- not quite the virtuoso performance of last month, but still, drenched in the drenchingly profound and incurable corruption of the imperial centre.

And then there is the stuff about the comets ...


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ronb
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posted 31 January 2003 05:12 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The comet one was my fave. My favourite part: 'Do you believe in God?'.

I got the last two issues together, so I forget, was the dirty old man article in that issue too?

There was the recent defense of Enlightenment Principles that I strongly disagreed with too.

And then there was that article that described the extremely slippery (and quick) slope from NATO's violation of Yugoslavia's sovereignty to Bush's war without end. I never fully understood what the opponents to that campaign were on about other than a general dislike of bombardment as a conflict resolution strategy, but that article made me see quite clearly what an extremely poor precedent was set there. Road to hell and all that...


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Sisyphus
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posted 31 January 2003 05:18 PM      Profile for Sisyphus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm still reading it in stolen moments. The Rwandan snapshots were harrowing. The comet article is wonderful, I'm savouring it in small tastes .
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skdadl
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posted 31 January 2003 05:31 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
ronb, the dirty old man article (touching, although, y'know, I felt some resistance) and the Enlightenment (hah!) principles article at least are from the previous issue.

I am so glad to hear that you also were bothered by so thin a notion of what Enlightenment principles are, to begin with. If I can ever find where I put my energy, I'll write a bit about why that article bothered me so much. I mean, "Enlightenment" seemed to mean to him a sliver of John Locke plus the U.S. founding documents. !

Philosophers have problems, if you ask me -- thin, very thin. Still, he occasionally came up with common-sensical conclusions. It annoyed me a bit when I occasionally found myself agreeing with him.

I'm confused now about which issue Yugoslavia was in.

This morning I came to the testaments from Rwanda last, and I couldn't make it all the way through. I will read them. They are mind-stopping, especially those from people who joined in the killing. Our politics look very small before that kind of testimony, I think.

I didn't know what to do except stop reading. And given the comets, I might as well stop writing.


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ronb
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posted 31 January 2003 06:49 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It was an excerpt of a Perry Anderson article from New Left Review called Force and Consent - the topic was actually broader than Yugoslavia , it was "The changing elements of American hegemony in the post-Cold War world." to quote the subhead from the complete article which is here, but a trifle long and involved. The one in harpers was more sucint and skipped the references to Gramsci, if memory serves. It's a pretty nuanced reading of why "Europe" is behaving the way it is right now, and contains the depressing conclusion that once the dust (and body parts) settle in Iraq, "Europe" will probably proclaim itself deeply satisfied.

That Rwandan article was heartbreaking... did you read the article from a few months ago about that woman's experiences in a North Korean prison/shoe factory?


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Michelle
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posted 31 January 2003 06:54 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about the comets? From the cryptic comments here, it sounds like maybe there's something to worry about...?
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ronb
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posted 31 January 2003 07:10 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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skdadl
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posted 31 January 2003 07:12 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
REPENT! THE END IS NIGH!


(I have always wanted to start a thread with that title. g'night)


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Jebus
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posted 31 January 2003 08:35 PM      Profile for Jebus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good night, my child.
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