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satana
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posted 09 January 2003 05:30 PM      Profile for satana     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Aujourdhui, decadi, le 20 nivôse an 211.

un peu d'histiore

I think the French republican calendar was a great idea. I think it should be a base for an international standard calender. (along with metric time).

Also, I'd propose spreading out extra festival days with at least one at the end of each season, so that they fall roughly at the equinox/soltsice.

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lagatta
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posted 09 January 2003 06:11 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Agree, long live the republican calendar! But can my cat Renzo be the supreme Being?
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satana
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posted 10 January 2003 11:17 AM      Profile for satana     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
can he sing?
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lagatta
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posted 10 January 2003 11:29 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Of course he can, especially if a tin of salmon or a shrimp or two is somewhere on the horizon.
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Alix
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posted 10 January 2003 11:47 AM      Profile for Alix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have (somewhere) an article from the 50s about trying to establish a metric calendar. I'll see if I can dig it out and post part of it. But not right now, I'm at work.
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T. Paine
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posted 12 January 2003 09:14 AM      Profile for T. Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The French Revolutionary calendar always had that 1984 ".. the clock struck 13..." feel to it to me.

Cold and without character.

I like how our callendar and the names for the days of the week carry with it echos of our past.

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Also, I'd propose spreading out extra festival days with at least one at the end of each season, so that they fall roughly at the equinox/soltsice.

They pretty much do now, I think. Christmas and Canada day near the solstices, and we have labour day...well a bit of a jaunt from the autumnal equinox, and Easter, which falls on the first Friday after the first full moon, after the spring equinox.

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posted 12 January 2003 10:24 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree with Tommy. After the Jacobins took power in 1793, especially with the ascendancy of the Committee of Public Safety, many of the grand projects the revolutionaries approved began to look both cold and loopy -- a-historical, anti-historical, idealist, romantic. The calendar is more practical and interesting than some other projects, maybe, but as Tommy says, the utter break with any kind of human tradition makes it look unrealistic to me.

I didn't know this:

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(The months gained derisive nicknames immediately in Britain as Showery, Flowery, Bowery, Wheaty, Heaty, Sweety, Slippy, Nippy, Drippy, Freezy, Wheezy and Sneezy).

Hee.


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'lance
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posted 12 January 2003 11:05 AM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah, the British satiric tradition! Not long after, during Napoleon's first exile, Punch said he was likely chafing and fretting on his tiny island.

Lack of Elba-room, don't you know.

('lance ducks some well-aimed fresh fruit and rotten vegetables)


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jeff house
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posted 12 January 2003 01:15 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did they say: "His temper on St. Helena is volcanic? No, they didn't.
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posted 12 January 2003 01:54 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting note: 1793 is 1973 with two digits interchanged - both pivotal years in Western history. In one case, a Revolution occurred in continental Europe and people saw first-hand the dangers of extremism in the pursuit of ideological conviction, and permanently cemented France as being somewhat different from other European nations. In the other, the elites of the West, who had been put on the back foot by the 1950s and 1960s Keynesian Compact, regained the upper hand and have done so since.

Just food for thought.


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satana
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posted 12 January 2003 04:17 PM      Profile for satana     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
T. Paine: Cold and without character.
I don't see that at all. Rather, it seems very in tune with nature.

And its not an utter break with tradition. It's still the same number of months with about the same number of days. And the tradition is there - the French used it for 13 years!

Our current months and days are named after ancient european gods and emperors. I guess changing them is no big deal, but I like the FRC's more descriptive names better. They actually mean something relevant.

One the best things about the FRC is that it's synchronized with the seasons. The first month of every season starts at the equinox/solstice.
And I like the idea that every month is 30 days. I always forget how long the months are in the Gregorian calendar. The FRC makes sense.

The festival days I was talking about were the 5/6 extra days in the FRC. If they were spread out with one at the beginning of each season, I figure the solstice/equinox would almost always fall on it or one day before or after.

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posted 12 January 2003 05:30 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm very fond of the Republican calendar - love the dates that correspond to the equinox and to the zodiac (not that I believe in that any more than Classical gods, but it is attuned to nature). Moreover the sounds of the months are lovely, and evocative of the seasons.

Now the days of the week in Portugese - that is dull - just numbers.


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posted 12 January 2003 05:50 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Gregorian calendar averages at 30 days with 28 for February and with half of the months having 31 days.

The precession of the Earth's equinoxes, though, means that over time the solstices and equinoxes will shift (forwards or backwards, I forget which) by about a day over the next 75 years.


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posted 12 January 2003 06:33 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Didn't the Khmer Rouge begin their stay in power by declaring the Year Zero?


This is not auspicious.


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