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Anchoress
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posted 21 May 2005 06:47 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
MOSCOW - Villagers in central Russia are mystified by the sudden disappearance, overnight, of the town's lake.
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Reality. Bites.
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posted 21 May 2005 09:29 AM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
New Yorkers report their lake is still there.


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Tommy_Paine
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posted 21 May 2005 09:36 AM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Didn't something similar happen in Florida, or Lousianna not too long ago?

That's got to be quite a shocker. Perhaps not as shocking though, as whoever's downstream from the cave system.....


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James
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posted 21 May 2005 09:39 AM      Profile for James        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This literally sucks, big time.
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Agent 204
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posted 21 May 2005 10:47 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's another account. I liked this bit:
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Officials in Nizhegorodskaya region, on the Volga river east of Moscow, said water in the lake might have been sucked down into an underground water-course or cave system, but some villagers had more sinister explanations.

"I am thinking, well, America has finally got to us," said one old woman, as she sat on the ground outside her house.



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posted 21 May 2005 11:09 AM      Profile for TemporalHominid   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Water Stealers
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Crippled_Newsie
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posted 21 May 2005 11:11 AM      Profile for Crippled_Newsie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Putin will no doubt blame the incident on the Chechnyans.
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posted 03 June 2005 09:40 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know about the lake near Moscos, but lakes in Siberia are shrinking because permafrost is melting and the water is seeping away; also in Alaska, this article says.
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...Comparing satellite images made in the early 1970s to those from recent years, a team of U.S. scientists determined that the number of large lakes in a vast 200,000-square-mile region of Russia's Siberia diminished by about 11%, from 10,882 to 9,712.

About 125 of the 1,170 shrunken lakes disappeared altogether, and most are now considerably smaller than the study's baseline of 40 hectares, or about 99 acres, the researchers found...

... In Alaska and western Canada, temperatures have increased by as much as 7 degrees over the last 50 years, according to the assessment, which was concluded last year.

Although the regions experiencing the changes are not home to high numbers of humans, the loss of surface water is expected to affect freshwater supplies for native people in the Arctic. It is also expected to have more immediate and profound effects on Arctic ecosystems, notably the lake habitat that many migratory birds rely upon, Smith said...



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More on Arctic Lakes disappearing.
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...Hinzman said the study shows it's more than just the northern lakes that are being affected. Glacier-fed rivers are swelling and freshwater flows into the region's oceans are increasing.

Glaciers are degrading rapidly, added Hinzman. In glacier-fed rivers, flows have increased in the past 30 to 50 years.

At the same time, rivers that aren't fed by glaciers are also being altered. "We're getting more evaporation and those rivers are actually decreasing their flows," he said. "We are getting the same thing in the Yukon."



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Yukoner
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posted 07 June 2005 01:15 PM      Profile for Yukoner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good. I hate lakes, they are nothing but pools of fish pee.
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West Coast Greeny
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posted 07 June 2005 03:55 PM      Profile for West Coast Greeny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not to mention fish spawn.
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posted 07 June 2005 03:59 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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permafrost is melting and the water is seeping away

Oh God! The Calgary school and oil industry just told us there is no such thing as climate change. Drop it already.

[ 07 June 2005: Message edited by: WingNut ]


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ceti
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posted 16 June 2005 07:00 PM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Check this very informative article which echoes a lot of what the Power of Nightmares was saying:

How America Is Conquering Russia

And a quote:

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The real story here should be exactly what McClurg mocks: that in fact, Bolotnikovo, like so many villages in this, the largest country on earth, is literally dying, a depressing, slow extinction that normally goes unnoticed, unless an unbelievably grotesque tragedy strikes it-in which case the people with the SUVs and speedboats can cite it as witty material to celebrate their own health, wealth and progress.

Why would a cruel act of nature visited upon a poor remote village inspire a seemingly absurd anti-American outburst from its inhabitants, and triumphant bully-humor in response?

The answer, incredibly enough, is because the Americans really did steal that lake.

No one in America would believe you if you told them this-you'd get that look that they give you, the "Oh come on, please!" sneer that everyone knows too well. It's an argument killer, and it works. But the fact is that America has, by any objective standard, been at war with Russia for nearly two decades, a grossly one-sided war in which the US is quietly conquering more and more territory with the kind of tireless efficiency and success not seen since the days of the Golden Horde.



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Agent 204
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posted 16 June 2005 07:47 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'd buy the global warming explanation over the above conspiracy theory any day. It's not that the Americans stole it, but that they, and the Russians, and just about everyone else, flushed it away.

But it could also be a freak geological event too. I'd like to know more about it actually.

[ 16 June 2005: Message edited by: Agent 204 ]


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