So who are these people?

Some of the comments were interesting:
"Terry Gilliam? Gee I liked him," for instance. The person who said this doesn't appear to have questioned the the reason for Gilliam being put on the list. The denunciation was sufficient.

I mean, really! She always seemed such a sweetheart. It's like finding out that, I don't know, Mr. Rogers was cruel to puppies, or something.

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"Freepers" are the most well-known right-wing U.S. contingent on the web.

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Well, and no wonder, eh?

Harry Belafonte?! WTF?!?!

It must really gall the folks on that list to have to decide whether to support Colin, a black guy in a position of power who supports the war, or Belafonte, a guy who criticizes a black guy in power, but is against the war.

I'm rather amused at who is seen as "black" in the US. I have a grandfather from Trinidad and a lot of relatives on that side who are about the same tone as Belafonte and Powell (I just got kinky-curly hair from that part of the gene pool...) Of course racism in the islands is even more baroque, with terms for each minute variation of colour, hair texture etc...

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Jessee Ventura (communist)

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Ventura is the only Governor who has refused to declare a "national day of prayer." In addition, he has attacked organized religion. Ergo, he is a communist.

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I can see how one might affix the term "heathen" to him, but hardly communist.

[ October 17, 2002: Message edited by: paxamillion ]

i refuse, *refuse* to believe that people are actually this stupid. it has to be a prank...right? right?

Rabble ought to run this on the front page to spread the laughs.

Edited to add: Barbra Streisand? Jane Fonda? would somebody clue me in here....?

[ October 19, 2002: Message edited by: Mohamad Khan ]

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i refuse, *refuse* to believe that people are actually this stupid. it has to be a prank...right? right?

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Stick with us, lad, and you'll learn that just as there are few real constraints on stupidity -- true artistes like our list-compilers here would scoff at any such limits, and quite rightly, given their self-evident natural gifts -- so there are even fewer limits, none really, on how bizarre reality can get, especially political reality. Though it's doubtful, on reflection, just what the combination of those two words could mean.

In short: I believe that like true paranoids -- that is, like persons in possession of all the facts -- our list-makers are quite sincere, with a perfect, deadly sincerity.

[ October 19, 2002: Message edited by: 'lance ]

As for Barbara, she's a big contributor to leftist causes and an outspoken Bush opponent. Jane went to Hanoi in '72 and the right will never forgive her no matter how many times she becomes a born-again Christian.

[ October 19, 2002: Message edited by: josh ]

As to someone's comments about what people consider black, basically with the super paranoid right wing racists, if you're not white, you're black or non black but equally as suspicious.

Funny enough, percentage wise, I'm more white than I am black or native, but even here in Canada, there is no question as to how I should be treated according to race. My skin is brown, my hair is curly, so therefore I'm other. I often refer to myself as black because to the power structure, I am black, but I am multiracial and percentage wise more white than anything. I can also go on about colourism within the black community, but I'll save that for another thread as it deserves it's own rant.

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Funny enough, percentage wise, I'm more white than I am black or native, but even here in Canada, there is no question as to how I should be treated according to race. My skin is brown, my hair is curly, so therefore I'm other. I often refer to myself as black because to the power structure, I am black,

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I once asked then-Inspector Fantino of the Toronto
Police why, if a person has a white father and a black mother, he is classified as "black" for the purposes of statistics.

He had no real answer, other than "it's customary."

Further thread drift: in reggae there's a rhythmic pattern called "one-drop," where the bass skips the first beat of each measure. The Wailers, I think, even had a song of that title. I've often wondered if the figure was so named as a sly reference to the "one-drop rule."

[ October 22, 2002: Message edited by: 'lance ]

Here in Québec, a very high percentage of the population has Aboriginal blood. Look at Monique Simard, or Lucien Bouchard. Sometimes, just like in Latin American countries to the south, in Northern regions like Lac Saint-Jean or Abitibi, the whites who are really half-native can be the most racist of all...

Perhaps this should be another thread...

[ October 22, 2002: Message edited by: lagatta ]

It always amazes me that the American right, particularily fringe nuts like these jeepers Freepers, seem to think that the Leftist Commies" are taking over their country, despite the fact that the country's political and economic institutions are almost wholly the domain of the right. Even the oft-derided "left-wing media."

But then these are the same people who consider Clinton a liberal so what can ya do?

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