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Topic: Ayn Rand made me a socialist
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nonsuch
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posted 22 February 2002 09:19 PM
Well, there were one or two other influences, but she helped.
You know what i mean?At the beginning of one novel (Atlas Shrugged, probably), she talks about slag-heaps as a measure of a country's economic health. That paragraph really put me off. Then there was all that guff about inherited wealth... Anyway, i read her when i was about 18 and really enjoyed the novels. ('The Virtue of Selfishness' put me to sleep at around pg. 2) By 21, i thought anyone over 21 who still didn't see the holes in her reasoning was either immature or just didn't want to. Did you have a similar experience? Not necessarily with Ayn Rand, but with any writer who presented a philosophy in such a way as to push you in the opposite direction?
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Rabid Gerbil
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posted 24 February 2002 11:35 AM
So Ayn Rand 'made' you a socialist eh?My daughter took some broncial medication last month that 'made' her break out in a rash. Funny how that happens eh? Read Ayn Rand and contract a disfiguring intellectual impairment - take some medication and contract a disfiguring physical impairmant.
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Secret Agent Style
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posted 27 February 2002 05:27 PM
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Wanting to save humanity from being enslaved by people like you is NOT being selfish.
Huh? Beware the zombie brain eaters from Mars! [ February 27, 2002: Message edited by: Andy Social ]
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Rabid Gerbil
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posted 27 February 2002 06:50 PM
Without selfishness, can we even exist as individuals? Anyway, most feminist moms wouldn't think so. After all. they leave their little babies with day care workers all the time in order to pursue their 'selfish' career aspitrations. Seems like capitalists don't have a monopoly on personal selfishness eh.
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'lance
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Babbler # 1064
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posted 27 February 2002 06:59 PM
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Beware the zombie brain eaters from Mars!
(ahem) (in the key of A) "Michael Rennie was ill
The Day the Earth Stood Still,
but he told us where we stand And Flash Gordon was there
in silver underwear;
Claude Rains was The Invisible Man Then something went wrong,
for Fay Wray and King Kong -
they got caught in a celluloid jam Then at a deadly pace
It Came From Outer Space.
And this is how the message ran...
(chorus)
Science fiction, double feature
Doctor X will build a creature
See androids fighting Brad and Janet
Anne Francis stars in Forbidden Planet
Wo oh oh oh oh oh
At the late night, double feature, picture show
I knew Leo G. Carroll
was over a barrel
when Tarantula took to the hills And I really got hot
when I saw Janette Scott
fight a Triffid that spits poison and kills Dana Andrews said prunes
gave him the runes,
and passing them used lots of skills
But When Worlds Collide,
said George Pal to his bride,
"I'm gonna give you some terrible thrills"
Like a...
(chorus)
Science fiction, double feature
Doctor X will build a creature
See androids fighting Brad and Janet
Anne Francis stars in Forbidden Planet
Wo oh oh oh oh oh
At the late night, double feature, picture show
I wanna go
Oh oh oh oh
To the late night, double feature, picture show
By R.K.O.
Wo oh oh oh
To the late night, double feature, picture show.
In the back row
Oh oh oh oh
To the late night, double feature, picture show."
You can read all about it on The Annotated Science Fiction/Double Feature.
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Debra
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posted 27 February 2002 07:08 PM
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Anyway, most feminist moms wouldn't think so. After all. they leave their little babies with day care workers all the time in order to pursue their 'selfish' career aspitrations. Seems like capitalists don't have a monopoly on personal selfishness eh.
Hmm now see I find this very interesting. My feminist leanings have been pointed out to me in no uncertain terms on this board more than once and yet I am a stay at home mom. Now Danielle Crittenton and others like her have made it their mission to go around tellling people they have a moral obligation to stay at home with their families and yet who is looking after their children? It occurs to me that perhaps pigeon holes are best left for the pigeons.
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sheep
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posted 27 February 2002 07:26 PM
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Wot… the way he describes the political machine in the U.S. appealed to you??
Nah. I was as much a fan of the Dead Kennedys as the next guy, but when I went to see him live he totally turned me off. He was up there ranting and raving, with the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand, conjuring up wild conspiracy theories with no proof whatsoever to back him up. It seemed that the only proof he had to offer was "'cause Jello sez so!" He came across to me as a slimmed down Rush Limbaugh. Same condescending attitude, just as snide and sneering, same core message of "not only is anyone who disagrees with me wrong, but so absolutely wrong that they are a complete and total fool". He kept drilling the message home that we should not be fooled by authority figures and learn to think for ourselves. I thought, "you're right Jello. You are an idiot" and I walked out. I still enjoy the Dead Kennedys, but mostly for East Bay Ray's guitar playing. [ February 27, 2002: Message edited by: sheep ]
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