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Hinterland
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posted 23 March 2005 03:27 PM
I promised I'd say something nice about Toronto, so here goes...Toronto. At least it's not Calgary. St. Lawrence Market. You can get a full meal by just asking for samples. Oh, and a cheese shop in Kensington. I think they prefer you just stay and snack on their samples, rather than buy anything. Oh, and Church/Wellesley. The friendliest gay village in Canada. [ 23 March 2005: Message edited by: Hinterland ]
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No Yards
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posted 23 March 2005 04:04 PM
Spadina Street Chinatown where you can get a super sized tastey meal for $4.The Beaches Boardwalk (OK, so it's really about the girls in shorts and roller blades.) The underground city (The Path) Crusing up and down Church , Jarvis, and Sherbourne Streets checking out the sex trade fashion show. The 504 Streetcar down Broadview when it gets to the top of Riverdale park for the best view of the city outside of possibly the view from The Docks nightclub. The Docks nightclub, haven't been there for a few years, but anyone visiting who is under 65 should chek it out. The entertainment district.
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Yukoner
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posted 23 March 2005 05:25 PM
I know I am dating myself, but:*Aida's Falafel on Bloor W *Upper Canada's brewery 'gift shop' after a Sunday tour...you could buy beer on Sunday! *'Roll out the barrel' at the Brunswick house *The Gasworks and Rock and Roll Heaven *Runway 66 *That guy who used to sell "Books for idiots" on Bloor W or Yonge St. Anyone remember him? *Paying an usher $20 to sneak into a Leafs game at MLG *Hot and sour soup at some Vietnamese place in Kensington Mkt *All the beautiful girls from every part of the world [ 23 March 2005: Message edited by: Yukoner ]
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Bookish Agrarian
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posted 23 March 2005 05:30 PM
I love the people, even the smug ones , well maybe not them so much, but everyone else. I have always found Toronto, despite the rep a very friendly place.Our kids love to go on the subway. It's like a big amusment ride to them. However, if I lived with that many people surrounding me I would be an axe murderer or something within a week. Not to mention I think it would be hard to fit our cattle into any sized apartment we could ever afford. ...Don't fence me in.
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posted 23 March 2005 05:55 PM
Yukoner, Aida's is now called Laila's. I was there just last night. It thrives still. So you will also remember Bloor SuperSave. 24/7. Eric and Maria and Cleo and Randy. Those people saved my life, again and again, and my spirit especially, by helping an old man to find his way along the aisles, day after day, for as long as he possibly could. And Knob Hill Cleaners, under two regimes. Rick Salutin wrote a wonderful column about the first family we all loved as they handed over to a new owner, but the wonder is that the new owners are dears as well! It's a wonderful stretch of people, isn't it.
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Wilf Day
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posted 23 March 2005 06:26 PM
Memories of the University of Toronto in the 1960s. Now there was a community of communities.The Royal York. Changing but changeless. Streetcars. (Ditto.) Toronto Island. (Still.) Memories of Yorkville (R.I.P.) The culture mix. (Where but Canada would you find a young woman named Clancy with a grandfather from Galway but ethnically three-quarters Chinese?) Greek restaurants. (Almost as friendly as a couple of Greek restaurants in Northumberland County.) The Ontario Archives. (Worth the trip to Toronto.) The Science Centre. (ditto.) Ontario Place. (Well, parts of it.) Cabbagetown, where so many trends started. Tommy Douglas speaking to a packed Maple Leaf Gardens. The Eaton Centre. (Not sure exactly why, but interesting to walk through, at least.) Queen Street West. (Ditto.)
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No Yards
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posted 23 March 2005 06:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Yukoner: I know I am dating myself, but:*'Roll out the barrel' at the Brunswick house
Ah, yes the Brunswich house, it was still a happening place when I moved here in the late 80's,now it's an off-track betting place ... and very close by the Transac(sp?) club, a Aussie Kiwi ex-pat bar in front, and an amature theater and concert hall in the back (entertained, and was entertained there many times when I first moved to T.O.)
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Yukoner
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posted 23 March 2005 08:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by kingblake: It has been a while since I've availed myself of the service, but it is nice being able to pick up a slice of cheesecake at 2.30am at Future on Bloor W.
Ahhh, how could I forget Futures. Sitting in the shade of the trees drinking coffee watching the world go by. I just remembered that great big jesus house we rented on Palmerston....a beautiful tree lined street. There was also a 3 story bar in the 'hood also. Open air deck on top, piano bar on the middle floor and an irish-y setup on the main floor.....don't recall the name. Also, after a night at Clintons shooting pool we would climb the fence to the pool in Christie Pits to smoke joints and jump off the 10 metre platform.....amazing that none of us died.
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lonewolf
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posted 23 March 2005 09:52 PM
homeless people everybody ignoreslineups at food banks potholes dirty streets traffics jams smog even in February corrupt police racism ... just in an evil mood I guess, but nothing's as good as you seem to remember it [ 23 March 2005: Message edited by: lonewolf ]
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helios
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posted 23 March 2005 11:49 PM
quote: no, not ALL cities have those things. Even if they did, does that mean we shouldn't notice?
Which cities might those be? and who told you not to notice? I think maybe you missed the title of the thread or maybe you just enjoy being angry ...
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Stargazer
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posted 24 March 2005 07:00 PM
quote: The Gasworks and Rock and Roll Heaven
Oh me too!! How I miss these two clubs!! I love Toronto. I love the diversity of the city, I love the transit system, I love the stores open all the times, I love the parks and the bike trails, and the beaches. Toronto kicks ass. [ 25 March 2005: Message edited by: stargazer ]
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Yukoner
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posted 24 March 2005 07:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Albireo: Wasn't that some guy named Krad Kilodney, or some name like that? Google yields nothing, but he used to stand around selling his own rambling self-published books.
Yeah something like that. You'd see him standing in random locations wearing a sign and holding some of his books. I talked to him a few times and bought a few books, they were hilarious. He wore a small tape recorder (he showed me) and said lots of his stories were based on conversations he had with street people or people who actually stopped to talk to him. I always wondered what the real deal was with him. Did he have a family to go home to? Was he mentally ill? Was he doing some sort of social experiment? He seemed quiet intellectual. I wonder what ever happened to him. Crad Kilodney's website, have a look. Edited to add link [ 24 March 2005: Message edited by: Yukoner ]
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dgrollins
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posted 12 April 2005 10:35 PM
This thread is making me sad. The Maritimes are nice, but I miss home….Queen and Spadina – it’s the centre of everything A cold beer and nachos at my favourite T.O pub The Tap on Bloor Discovering a new band at The Horseshoe Hot lazy summer afternoons watching the Jays at the Dome Buying a TTC day pass and picking a random part of the city to visit Taking the Blue Night home at 4 a.m. Watching soccer during the World Cup Going for a walk along Queen West on a Friday night Pretending to be young and hip at Sneaky Dee’s Most of all…my friends and family.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 14 April 2005 01:23 AM
quote: I like sitting right at the front of the subway, and watching the scenery approach.
First time in Toronto. Age 20. I absolutely insisted on this, to the embarrassment of my Toronto-born host. A train! Underground! Imagine! Second to this is riding the Queen streetcar in the wee hours when Queen is mostly deserted. By day they're a quaint trolley like the one on Mister Rogers. By night they're a 60-seat rocket sled that can do 0-60 in about 6 seconds, quietly. I also love St. Lawrence Market, Chinatown, Kensington Market, and hotdog carts. When I first moved to Toronto there was a hotdog cart right outside my building, and I ate 'street meat' as many as ten times a week. The idea of food, on the street was as novel as trains, underground.
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the bard
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posted 16 April 2005 01:28 AM
in no particular orderStreetcars HotDocs Bloor Cinema Palmerston Blvd. (other fav. streets incl. Euclid and Markham between College and Harbord, Major St., Brunswick Ave. and a few up near Casa Loma/Hillcrest Park) Kensington Market UofT campus Robarts Library 21/2 storey old Victorians Banjara (Indian restaurant) Massimo's (pizza) Kensington Kitchen Uprising! (radical bookstore) abundance of theater (which I don't see often enough) Susur (tried it once!) [ 16 April 2005: Message edited by: the bard ]
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rob.leblanc
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posted 16 April 2005 01:34 PM
The best place to get a hot dog in Toronto is outside....god, it's lost me now....either Ryerson or UofT..I love how a lot of appearences can be quite decieving in Toronto. Yesterday, this large, intimidating fellow came up to me and had a face like he was going to mug me or shoot me for fun, then he smiled and said "Excuse me, I'm a bit lost. Would you happen to know where Dundas is?". It's a great, wonderful city and I'm going to miss it when I move in about three/four years to Berlin. Have to add this just for fun: This be a LINK. I've got a bunch of other things I love about Toronto, but I'll post them later. [ 16 April 2005: Message edited by: rob.leblanc ]
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Hinterland
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posted 16 April 2005 01:44 PM
From that list posted by rob.leblanc quote: Castle Frank subway station remains one of the great mysteries of the universe for you.
This is so true. I think Castle Frank is like a Potemkin subway station, contrived to give a bit of scenery between Broadview and Sherbourne. Or maybe it's a way station in the middle of some weird Einstein-Rosen Bridge. In any case, no one ever gets on or off at Castle Frank, and you can't find the the station from above ground.
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Michelle
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posted 17 April 2005 11:22 AM
PB, there's a really interesting site about that, and it's been posted before on babble. I found it fascinating too, and I often think about it when I'm in a train in a tunnel. However, I get the feeling that nowadays, if unauthorized people are found in the tunnels, it wouldn't just be a matter of "Hey, you shouldn't be in there, it's dangerous," but rather, "Hey, why are you trying to explore the tunnels? What are you plotting?" I would think also that people who weren't WASPs would be particularly targeted for that type of assumption too.
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mary123
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posted 17 April 2005 02:46 PM
I love Toronto because it is a very zen type of city.It is not flashy, loud and melodramatic like Montreal (which can give you a headache after awhile let me tell you.) I can't describe it but zen come close. I like peace I like quiet and you get that in Toronto. People who live there let you do your own thing, are friendly, non judgemental and the city is not overly dramatic and glamourous which suits my personality. It's really a mellow city for a big city. There's no fashion contest going on between women unless you hang out in high end bars and restaurants there. Unlike Montreal, women can dress casual and comfortable and not be judged by appearances which I love. Here in Montreal there's like a fashion show happening everywhere and it is tedious and a time wasting event for me. Toronto is like a great big university town with a very well educated and genuinely decent population which makes it very easy to live there.
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the bard
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posted 17 April 2005 03:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by mary123:
It is not flashy, loud and melodramatic like Montreal (which can give you a headache after awhile let me tell you.) I can't describe it but zen come close. I like peace I like quiet and you get that in Toronto. People who live there let you do your own thing, are friendly, non judgemental and the city is not overly dramatic and glamourous which suits my personality.
I agree - though interestingly, people in Vancouver seem to think this distinguishes them from Toronto. It's probably due to Toronto marketing itself as the Canadian New York - and that makes Toronto seem lame. Toronto really is a city of neighborhoods - it doesn't really have a common "theme" like NYC, Montreal, Vancouver, and a whole host of other places. I think it takes a while to get to know. More than one American from the Northeastern cities I've met dismiss it as hopelessly "Midwestern". [ 17 April 2005: Message edited by: the bard ]
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the bard
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posted 17 April 2005 04:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by verbatim:
the bard: Vancouver has a theme? What is it?
Not really more than "laid-back, West Coast, organic, etc." - but more so than Toronto I think. I don't mean to dismiss other cities by saying they have a theme, but some places do have something that has caught on. I don't think Toronto has been successful in its attempts to market itself as something specific. Why do people go to Toronto? One can say people go to Montreal because it's exciting, fashion-conscious, a cheap trip to Europe, etc. People go to Vancouver for its being "laid back", etc. People go to NYC because of its huge exciting and has a wealth of cultural institutions. But Toronto???? [ 17 April 2005: Message edited by: the bard ]
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the bard
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posted 17 April 2005 04:46 PM
Yes Toronto's been trying to plug this "world class" thing for years. It's a great city, but it suffers from an inferiority complex. The Van skyline has changed immensely over the past decade and apparently a few people are saying this "proves" it's a world-class city. Some are saying it's more like Manhattan than Toronto is (I definitely don't think is true!), that unlike Toronto it's trancended "Canadianness", at least according to this website authored by the real estate industry:http://www.guestlife.com/vancouver/features/feature3.htm (see 3rd paragraph)
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mary123
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posted 17 April 2005 06:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by the bard:
It's probably due to Toronto marketing itself as the Canadian New York - and that makes Toronto seem lame.
I'm not sure if it's Toronto marketing itself as such because it looks like Toronto does zilcho to market itself compared to Montreal and New York. As has been stated here Toronto does have an inferiority complex (but why???) and has no real theme. Potential ad campaign: "Toronto - A Zen place to be. Not as laid back as Vancouver. Not as flashy and noisy as Montreal. We're somewhere in the middle." hehehe
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mary123
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posted 17 April 2005 06:48 PM
Comedy is a cornerstone of Toronto culture and history what with some this generation of Hollywood's greatest comedians coming out of Toronto.This cultural and historical fact can and should be used to market Toronto. But do the powers that be in Toronto give a darn. No. If Montreal had this same legacy they would be advertising it up the wazoo for everyone and all to hear. Montreal markets itself very, very well. Well oiled machine it is. Toronto has the potential to do more tourist hunting but is sadly apathetic.
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Michelle
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posted 17 April 2005 10:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by the bard: I hope this doesn't turn the thread in a nasty direction, Michelle, but I didn't realize that Irish Catholics, Jews, Italians and Poles were victims of racial profiling.
Good point. I spoke lazily. Although it wasn't so long ago when all of those groups you mention were profiled in a similar way by people of WASP background, and they probably still are to some extent. If I'm not mistaken, Toronto has a pretty "orange" history in that way. Which is why I'm used to thinking of "WASP" when I think of the group least likely to be discriminated against, since by merely saying "white", that includes people of certain ethnic backgrounds that have been racialized and discriminated against in the past. But really, you're right - at the present time, white people who aren't WASPs do have skin privilege that people of colour do not have. So, again, apologies for the lazy remark. [ 17 April 2005: Message edited by: Michelle ]
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the bard
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posted 17 April 2005 10:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Michelle:
Good point. I spoke lazily. Although it wasn't so long ago when all of those groups you mention were profiled in a similar way by people of WASP background, and they probably still are to some extent. If I'm not mistaken, Toronto has a pretty "orange" history in that way. [ 17 April 2005: Message edited by: Michelle ]
It does to an extent. Unlike Boston, NYC and Chicago, the Irish never became a politically dominant group in Toronto. Like Philadelphia, it has a history of WASP mayors (Philly did this until the 1960s). In fact, Toronto elected its first Jewish mayor (Nathan Phillips, elected in 1955) before its first Catholic mayor (Art Eggleton, in 1980). I'd be surprised if more than 15% of Toronto's population could be described as full-blooded WASPs today, and I'm willing to include Germans and Dutch of Loyalist stock in the WASP category. You can sometimes recognize the upper-crust WASPs by their accent. (Jack Layton's ancestors, the Steves, were Loyalists of German descent. Did you know that an estimated one-third of the supposedly "British" Loyalists were Germans and one-tenth were Dutch?!)
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posted 17 April 2005 11:03 PM
Toronto was in fact a city known for its conservatism until the 1960s. The Diefenbaker (1960) and Pearson (1967) governments reformed Canadian immigration law so it didn't explicitly exclude non-white immigrants. Toronto then emerged as one of the world's most multicultural cities. It did have a significant number of Jewish, Italian, Polish and Ukrainian immigrants in the early 20th century, but WASPs still remained a majority. These non-WASPs often felt a common bond - since many Jews and Italians lived around College Street, some Italian children learned Yiddish and some Jewish children learned Italian. And many Italians came to the aid of Jews during the Nazi-inspired Christie Pits riot in 1933. A fascinating element of Toronto history was the radical Jewish culture in the Spadina area during the 1930s and 1940s. Rick Salutin wrote a very interesting introduction to a book on the history of Spadina (the most interesting part of the book, in fact). Emma Goldman lived her last years in the city (this is accounted for in a book by a husband-and-wife team of historians by the name of Moritz, although I found reading about the unknown radicals of the day to be more interesting than Goldman herself). J.B. Salsberg was elected as a Communist MPP in the 1943 election, representing the Spadina area and remarkably survived an election in 1951 (but was defeated in 1955 after most of Toronto's Jewish community had moved right and moved north). [ 17 April 2005: Message edited by: the bard ] [ 17 April 2005: Message edited by: the bard ] [ 18 April 2005: Message edited by: the bard ]
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Wilf Day
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posted 18 April 2005 12:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by the bard: Toronto was in fact a city known for its conservatism until the 1960s.
When the CCF broke onto the scene by forming the Official Opposition in Ontario's 1943 election, with 34 seats to the Conservative minority government's 38, only 8 of the 34 were from Toronto, while 11 were from the North, 4 from Hamilton-Wentworth, 3 from Windsor-Essex, 3 from Waterloo-Wellington, 2 from Niagara Region, 1 from Brantford, 1 from Oshawa, and 1 from Sarnia.
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Boom Boom
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posted 18 April 2005 07:58 AM
I had relatives in Burlington, Oakville, and Hamilton I visited for a few years. Burlington was still under development and at the time there was quite a building boom, but the homes mostly looked alike. I didn't really care for any of these three cities, although there was a great bar and restaurant in Hamilton, the name of which escapes me, which had a daily roasted beef special with a huge roast of beef and you could go and specify how much you wanted. I lived at the Sheridan College School of Nursing on Hurontario for two years, commuting bck and forth to the College every day. The nurses were great company. (Sexist comment coming up - beware) There was also a Modelling school that used the Residence, so we were surrounded by gorgeous females much of the time. Aside from the School of Nursing and that huge mall (Square One) further down the road, I didn't have much use for Mississauga, although it's within a short driving distance of Toronto and Hamilton.
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posted 18 April 2005 11:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by verbatim:
Hey. Where are the piles of corpses?
Well, it's a panorama shot, meaning that there was some time between frames for the bodies to get up and shuffle around- I just waited until they were out of the frame before taking a snap. The address changed; go to http://www.urbandetail.ca [ 19 April 2005: Message edited by: Kinetix ]
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Mophead C. Joseph
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posted 26 April 2005 05:33 PM
My new lover is an urban planner (well, in two years a full fledged one) and we take great pleasure in traipsing about this great city that we grew up in but never before really took the time to see. It definitely enhances the "fairytale" aspect of this stage of our romance.Re: Castle Frank, I remember once a few years back, the subway broke down, stranding me and a few friends (and the PM rush-hour commute) at Castle Frank. It was such a surreal experience. Was cool, though. Has anyone here ever been down Castle Frank Rd.? Other stuff: Farms in the middle of the city (Riverdale Farm, Sunnybrook Park stables) Ability to take a "vacation/day-trip" for only the cost of bus-fare ...or to entertain oneself immensely by going for a walk and browsing around stores that take your fancy (found a comprehensive Simpsons' songbook this way!) The vast grey expanse of hideous, hideous Scarborough [ 26 April 2005: Message edited by: Mophead C. Joseph ]
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posted 05 September 2008 07:01 PM
k, it's 3 years after this thread was started but I just found it and I feel like putting up a post.I love the weather (seriously) I love the old brick houses I love city hall I love the Green Room I love all of the amazing people I've met I love High Park I love how Canadian Toronto is I love that I'm 3 hours ahead of my fam in Van so I never forget to call them!
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posted 05 September 2008 07:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by dokidoki: how about:Roncevalles Street
More often spelled Roncesvalles. (And it's Avenue.)Which is the basis of the very first Toronto story I ever remember my father telling me. He grew up in Stratford during the first World War but had family in Toronto and visited often. One day he saw a cop dragging a dead horse around the corner of Roncesvalles onto Queen Street. "Why are you dragging that dead horse around the corner of Roncesvalles onto Queen Street?" he asked. "Because I have to fill out a report on the damn horse, and I can't spell Roncesvalles" said the cop. I didn't believe him, but it was a good story. [ 05 September 2008: Message edited by: Wilf Day ]
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posted 05 September 2008 08:01 PM
I love the activist political scene, the arts and culture that's not officially sanctioned by Harbourfront, the ROM or the AGO. I love the mini neighbourhoods everywhere you go.I love the food! I love that the best Chinese restaurant ever on Spadina south of College (NOT for vegetarians!), is the same one my family went to when we first moved to Ontario 35 years ago, and we'd drive all the way in from Etobicoke to go for dinner there. I love the streetcars. I love the NDP MPs and MPPs who are in Toronto, the very few of them. I love the Cabbagetown Festival, on this weekend, only the second one I've been to, being a new resident of C-town. I love, okay, I strongly like, Mayor Miller. And I love that I live here, and that the heat of summer is done. Now, sadly, this thread, already very long when dakota-ray resurrected it, must be closed. And Torontonian is doing it! Dare a part two be begun?
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