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Topic: Running for fourth place is not enough
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JeffWells
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posted 12 December 2005 11:22 AM
I am tired of having my hope cut off at the feet by leaders with small vision. I am not inspired by "elect as many New Democrats as possible" or "keep the Liberals honest." I want my party to be more than the tail that wags the dog. And swing voters are more likely to be swayed by a party that talks like they at least want to form a government.Reform and Alliance had no chance in Hell of winning, but they campaigned as though they did. They created the impression of a serious contender. Conditions must be created for victory. And the first condition is talking as though you're fighting to win. Talk like a contender, and create the reality. (I think this, to a great degree, contributed to the NDP surge under Broadbent in the mid-80s.) I'm a life-long New Democrat, but increasingly I understand those who say "Why should I vote NDP when they don't have a hope of winning?" Because we don't generate hope, inside the party or in the general public, when we run an also-ran campaign.
From: Toronto | Registered: Dec 2003
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tallyho
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posted 12 December 2005 01:57 PM
No, it's not about hope but about listening to the worker and farmer and proposing policies that reflect THEIR beliefs and aspirations and not preaching to them.'Rah, rah, rah,' will not lead the NDP to emulate the success of the Reform or BQ. The Reform Party didn't dimiss the very people the NDP claims to represent as ignorant bumpkins needing to be 'shown the light'. It's not about 'hope', or 'the media', or 'scare tactics' or 'lack of effort' or 'uninformed voters'...it's about NOT listening but preaching.
From: The NDP sells out Alberta workers | Registered: Nov 2005
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Ty Webb
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posted 12 December 2005 01:59 PM
These other parties not only ran to win, but they had relefvent policies as well. This is something the NDP could also do, but is not currently.As it is, the NDP is going to lose seats. Let's hope they lose the right seats (Toronto Danforth, Burnaby Douglas) so that the overall makeup of the party at least improves after the election.
From: I was born to rub you, but you were born to rub me first! | Registered: Jan 2005
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Aristotleded24
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posted 12 December 2005 02:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tallyho:
No, it's not about hope but about listening to the worker and farmer and proposing policies that reflect THEIR beliefs and aspirations and not preaching to them.
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Originally posted by Ty Webb:
These other parties not only ran to win, but they had relefvent policies as well. This is something the NDP could also do, but is not currently.
You mean by saying things like this? quote:
“When a company goes bankrupt – workers,
not banks should be the first priority."
Jack Layton, Leader of Canada’s NDP
From: Winnipeg | Registered: May 2005
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Ty Webb
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posted 12 December 2005 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by RealityBites:
Wow, how about that? Ty Webb actually hates some heterosexual males too!
That's the great thing about being you... anyone else who made such a comment would probably get banned... As for the workers first bill, it is important and it is a big deal, because you don't see the NDP doing stuff like that every day. Just goes to prove that once in a blue moon the Federal NDP is relevent.
From: I was born to rub you, but you were born to rub me first! | Registered: Jan 2005
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