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Amy
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posted 27 October 2005 08:21 PM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm doing some reading up to get ready for a final paper, and whenever I do that I always get incredibly distracted by the question of why I'm drawn to the material that I'm drawn to.

Right now, the two topics I've come up with are the intellect of angels -and other beings- according to Averroës, and the concept of apatheia for a particular stoic or neo-stoic thinker (which often to me sound vaguely like existential ethics, but I'm not really familiar with either so that could be way off the wall). They are both very different topics, and very different than what usually interests me in my academic pursuits. I'm usually drawn to strange variations on Utilitarianism, Aristotle's take on the soul and emotion, and at a fairly basic level the sciences.

I guess my question is: What are you drawn to, philosophy-wise? Have you been able to figure out why? I usually know right away why I don't like something, but if I want to explain why I do like something (and don't want to resort to "it's whimsical" or "it's intuionally appealing") then it takes me a long time to figure it out. Am I the only one with that difficulty?


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nonsuch
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posted 28 October 2005 04:14 AM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do ancient religions count?
I rather like the Hindu take on things, and i know why: big picture, cycles, very long view, benign. That appeals to my take-a-step-back, don't-rush-into-action, non-aggressive attitude to life. Not like i need an excuse to do nothing, but it's nice to know that others have been there before.

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ronb
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posted 28 October 2005 11:49 AM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's something charming about a religion whose central sacred text concerns a warrior so overcome with existential angst that he's unable to fight.

But then there's the whole caste thing.


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paxamillion
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posted 28 October 2005 11:54 AM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I spent over a decade studying Theravada Buddhism. I was attracted to the meditation, and the resulting changes in my perception of things.
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cogito ergo sum
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posted 28 October 2005 01:55 PM      Profile for cogito ergo sum     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm very attracted to Utilitarianism and I like to frame it in the context of a social contract. Rightly or wrongly, I self-identify as an "enlightened" utilitarian which in the context of a society makes me support social democratic political principles.
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Rufus Polson
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posted 28 October 2005 03:22 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's an interesting hybrid. Normally, ideas about social contracts ("contractarianism") and utilitarianism are considered two separate schools of thought.

Personally, I always have problems with utilitarianism. It seems too mechanistic and prone to odd little abuses--very much the CIA's ethical theory; end justifies the means. Rule-utilitarianism is better but it still doesn't really work with my intuitions about what ethics is about. I'm more comfortable with Rawlsian justice theory.

I am, almost despite myself, kind of interested in free will, determinism, and the sort-of-related-to-free-will concept of "autonomy". I find it almost annoying--for practical purposes, in terms of how I internally seem to be, I clearly do have free will. So how much should it matter that it's far less clear this free will is really real? But somehow I can't resist picking at it sometimes.


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posted 28 October 2005 05:12 PM      Profile for cogito ergo sum     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, my thinking is that the basic premise of a social contract is that an individual gives up or curtails certain individual freedoms in order to gain safety/companionship/material comfort from society. Since I believe that I cannot provide as well for myself on my own as within a society then I see myself as willingly accepting a social contract.

Now, I am also agnostic and not religious so from a personal standpoint the best reason I can come up for my "purpose" for being here is that there no "purpose". Rather, I just exist and I might as well pursue my happiness as best I can. This meshes rather well with utilitarianism as I understand it.

So combining the two ideas above, I figure that my best chance at happiness is to try and work for a society that will best provide me with what I need for my personal happiness. Hence the idea that I must temper my purely utilitarian impulses (what's best for me) with a more enlightened view of my place in society (what's best for me in the grand scheme of things given that I live in a society).

This train of thought has eventually led me to believe that I will be happiest in a democratic society with a strong social net. Now, I do have another even more prefered option which is a society that's a benign dictatorship with me in charge. Unfortunately I don't think that's a realistic option so I'm willing to settle for a social democracy as the next best thing.


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