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Mohamad Khan
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posted 24 May 2002 10:27 PM      Profile for Mohamad Khan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...is a real pain in the ass.

i'm curious about what online bookstores babblers prefer, especially those of us (and i suspect there are quite a few) who seek out non-English books. it would be interesting to get a sense of how many *real* non-English bookstores there are in Toronto as well.

for starters, these are my favourites for Arabic:

Maktabat Niil wa al-Furaat
Al-Maktaba
E-Kotob

Arabic stores are proliferating on the net, since they seem to have clued into the fact that the Arabic script is a viable electronic medium. i'm desperate for some good stores for Persian, Urdu, and especially Pakistani Punjabi literature. there used to be a huge selection of books in Urdu and other Pakistani languages at Sang-e-Meel--but the one time i placed an order, the rip-off attempt was quite transparent. looks like the site is down all of a sudden(?) i was actually ready to cough up the extra money--they had some excellent books in Punjabi.

i haven't yet bought anything in Persian. these look interesting, though:

Asia Publishing
Iranbooks

Iranbooks' Persian catalog looks fairly impressive. i wonder how good they are about correspondence and answering questions. i don't want to buy Mantiq al-Tayr and then find out it's actually an ornithological text.

for Punjabi,

Nahal Global Trading is good for stuff in the Gurmukhi script, and Tarlochan is a nice guy, while
APNA has a very small number of books in Shahmukhi (Urdu script). you'll also notice that they're crazy enough to be attempting a transliteration of the entire Guru Granth Sahib into Shahmukhi.

jo bole so nihaal. sat sri akal.


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Riffraff
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posted 24 May 2002 10:40 PM      Profile for Riffraff     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
These South Asian born folks !! I have yet to meet one who does not speak at least three languages ! Hat off ! Yes, some languages are almost similar, but almost, like Urdu and Penjabi.

Well I read Urdu but do not ask me the meaning of what I can read

Personally, I get my books from my country of birth, when I go there or I can have them sent by my family. Once, I urgently needed a non-english, non-french book, but I found it in a section of the Ottawa Public Library. I do not know whether such section for "others" still exist.

Thank you Mohamed for the links, that would make it much easier for me ..


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lagatta
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posted 24 May 2002 10:54 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fusty fun.
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I'll pass on those messages to my Arabic-speaking friends, I took a couple of courses in Arabic but can just read it a bit, and do great calligraphy. Here in Quebec it is more people from the Maghreb, and Lebanon.

There used to be a great Italian bookshop in Montreal, Tuttolibri, but it closed down. The Italian bookshops in both Montreal and Toronto are small and provincial. There is a better choice in university libraries. There is a nice little Spanish-language bookshop on St-Laurent in the Plateau, Abya Yala (?).

I lived in Paris, where there are a couple of excellent Arabic bookshops, one at l'Institut du monde arabe, another nearby. It is such fusty fun to leaf through real books, I suppose internet shopping has its benefits but it is not in my mentality ( moreover I haven't got any credit cards...).


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Riffraff
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posted 25 May 2002 03:35 PM      Profile for Riffraff     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lagatta wrote:

"(..)I took a couple of courses in Arabic but can just read it a bit, and do great calligraphy".

Hmm ! I guess the "phenomenon goes beyond my own house ! My wife too had taken Arabic language courses -at Laval University. ANd yes, she can read, but would have no clue I think it is because practice lacked. We did intend to go for one or two years to my country of birth so sha can practice.. but we couldn't.

But I really admire (non- Araphones) who take courses in Arabic -by choice- knowing well it is not that easy a language.


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Michelle
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posted 18 September 2002 03:31 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just snooping through some back threads and saw this one.

Mohamad, there is a Persian book store a couple of doors down from Asy Max, a Persian food market on Yonge Street just south of Finch, on the east side of the street. They have lots of Persian music, books, and videos. What they don't have, they can likely order. I think the name of the store is Pegah Books.


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SamL
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posted 18 September 2002 09:50 PM      Profile for SamL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I seems that I'm the only ethnic South Asian in this part of the world who speaks only 2 languages. My parents taught me how to speak Gujarati, but nothing else. And my brother resisted the language so much that I rarely speak it anymore at home. My skills have deteriorated badly. I can't read or write it either.

And even though they could speak/read/write in Hindi, Swahili, a bit of Urdu and Punjabi, I was never taught. Friggin younger brother...


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SamL
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posted 18 September 2002 09:51 PM      Profile for SamL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It seems that I'm the only ethnic South Asian in this part of the world who speaks only 2 languages. My parents taught me how to speak Gujarati, but nothing else. And my brother resisted the language so much that I rarely speak it anymore at home. My skills have deteriorated badly. I can't read or write it either.

And even though they could speak/read/write in Hindi, Swahili, a bit of Urdu and Punjabi, I was never taught. Friggin younger brother...

How many of these languages are offered at an introductory level in universities?


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jeff house
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posted 21 September 2002 01:57 AM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Because a fair number of my clients are Tamil speakers, I have long been interested in picking up at least a smattering of that language.

It is amazing to me, though, that although all the big bookstores in Toronto contain books for learning Finnish, Tagalog and Twi, none has anything for learning Tamil. They are just plian out of touch since there are more than 100,000 Tamil speakers in this city.


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rasmus
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posted 21 September 2002 02:06 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If your french is good, there are good Tamil texts in French. Otherwise, you should try Kausalya Hart's not so good book, Tamil for Beginners, in two parts. I think it is available from UC Press. Amazon should have it.

Tamil is a fascinating, expressive language with a rich, 2000 year literary history quite distinct from the Sanskritic history of North India. I highly recommend a foray into the language.


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rasmus
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posted 21 September 2002 02:08 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pegah Books it is, Michelle, the owner's name is Nasrollah. It is a pretty good bookstore and he can get any book from Iran in a week or so.
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satana
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posted 21 September 2002 10:37 AM      Profile for satana     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It seems most of the books in the Arabic language today are translations.
I'm just curious, what kind of Arabic literature do you look for?

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Michelle
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posted 21 September 2002 10:56 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hee. Just looking at the Iranbooks site.

I have this book and I'd like to pick up other children's books and readers from this page.

I don't have the same incentive to do so now that I used to have, but maybe someday I will learn the language...


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