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remind
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posted 23 October 2008 05:01 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gawd, McVety has outdone himself. Instead of applauding the advancement of First Nations culture and art, within Canada, he spins it as a "homosexual" and "Nazi" travesty. Moreover, I wonder if Harper will refuse to be sworn in in front of it?
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The official seat of power in Canada is manifest in the office of the Governor General. The GG is Canada’s Head of State, Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Armed Forces and the Queen’s representative. Governor General Michaelle Jean recently installed new imagery in Rideau Hall on September 18th, just in time to swear in the next Prime Minister. Following the October 14th vote, Canada’s representative of the Queen will conduct the ceremony inaugurating the nation’s next Government Representatives, Prime Minister and Cabinet Ministers. This official ceremony will be conducted with the backdrop of a large homosexual mural called "Androgyny", which means being both male and female.

...This concept is not new. Adolph Hitler’s Nazi Party appointed Dr. Carl Jung as their head of the International General Medical Society for Psychotherapy. He taught the concept that in the uncouncious of man is anima (femininity) and in the uncouncious of woman is animus (masculinity).


http://christiangovernment.ca/newsletter_view.php?id=351

h/t BnR


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posted 23 October 2008 05:15 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, symbolism counts for a lot, and I don't think we should just sluff this off as looney nonesense.

Where do we draw the line? Sure, today is androgynous representations of Jungian...whatever..., but what about tomorrow?

What if a bunch of Sado-masochists got their hands on the riegns of power (well, I suppose just the sado wing) and swore in the government in front of some hellish display of someone nailed to a cross after being whipped and wearing a fetishy crown of pointy things?

I mean, there's some real wierdos out there.


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remind
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posted 23 October 2008 06:12 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy_Paine:
...but what about tomorrow?

What if a bunch of Sado-masochists got their hands on the riegns of power (well, I suppose just the sado wing) and swore in the government in front of some hellish display of someone nailed to a cross after being whipped and wearing a fetishy crown of pointy things?

I mean, there's some real wierdos out there.



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Jingles
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posted 23 October 2008 06:51 PM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow. That guy is a total douchebag.

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if you want to be victorious in this culture war against liberalism’s forces of slavery and tyranny.

They sure don't seem to mind the tax free status their cults enjoy. Why should I be subsidizing these freaks?


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posted 23 October 2008 08:01 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
McVety is an idiot.
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Doug
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posted 23 October 2008 09:26 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy_Paine:

What if a bunch of Sado-masochists got their hands on the riegns of power (well, I suppose just the sado wing) and swore in the government in front of some hellish display of someone nailed to a cross after being whipped and wearing a fetishy crown of pointy things?

Hot. Ministerial responsibility would take on a whole new meaning.


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posted 24 October 2008 12:29 AM      Profile for admin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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In Androgyny, Morrisseau represents the Ojibway shaman’s world view, showing a thriving and bountiful world in which all the diverse elements are in perfect balance. With its impressive height of 3.66 metres and width of 6.1 metres, its brilliant colours, and the artist’s knowledge and understanding of the Ojibway cosmology, this artwork is a true masterpiece. Morrisseau donated this painting to the Canadian people on April 15, 1983. He was awarded the Order of Canada in 1979. The loan of Androgyny to Rideau Hall is made possible thanks to a partnership with the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs Canada, and the Indian and Inuit Art Centre. The piece is on display until 2011 and will be seen by everyone visiting Rideau Hall.
Quote and picture linked(click on picture)

Would it not be appropriate to remove the distinction of that Christian link, from the topic of the painting itself. That to lump a view and incorporate the miscommunication of the principals of psychological and it's interpretation under such a message. It would have been to ignore some of the "profound thoughts" that are dealt with, in the "psychology of" by trying to learn to understand our very own natures.

Click on Picture

It does a disservice in many areas, and the responses there in, by reacting to it, a further denigration of something that should not be tainted like this.

If some did know of the story of the likes of a leader like Hitler and the related book shown by Shinoda, you would understand the complexity of, and the psychology that could lead nations. It requires an in depth look at the foundations of families and this effect on the children that are raised. The "resulting character" that arises from a family, to become a leader like that Hitler.

We are all the wiser then to watch who our leaders are, and what they represent behind the party platforms. How they can lead one down a garden path and we would not have known.

Once you learn of Shinoda's method of explanation then you will understand the use of Wagner's Nibelungenring.

Best,


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remind
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posted 24 October 2008 12:59 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Admin, feel free to start a thread on it, as I agree it is more than worthy to have Adrogyny as an alone topic to discuss.

But this thread is about McVety's portrayal of it, and not Androgyny itself. As well as to discuss his insertion of himself and his fundamentalist Christian ideology into Canadian politics. He has a huge influence on Harper's government and needs to be exposed everytime he comes out with something public like this. Indeed if Harper refuses to have the swearing in in front of it, we will know why.


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posted 24 October 2008 01:16 AM      Profile for admin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
Admin, feel free to start a thread on it, as I agree it is more than worthy to have Adrogyny as an alone topic to discuss.

But this thread is about McVety's portrayal of it, and not Androgyny itself. As well as to discuss his insertion of himself and his fundamentalist Christian ideology into Canadian politics. He has a huge influence on Harper's government and needs to be exposed everytime he comes out with something public like this. Indeed if Harper refuses to have the swearing in in front of it, we will know why.


Hi Remind,

I believe I did answered the thread post quite completely in regards to McVety's portrayal. You did not include Jung who is also besmirched under this topic.

But yes, I see what you are saying if Harper does not do the swearing in, one would have been successful here. I did not know of the extend of the influence here which then goes to the idea of leaders of party platform, and what we are being lead by.

Best,


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remind
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posted 24 October 2008 01:42 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Okay I now see what you were meaning thanks admin.
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posted 24 October 2008 05:31 AM      Profile for G. Pie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'd never heard of this McVety asshole. Which rock did he crawl out from under? And that is one beautiful mural.
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posted 24 October 2008 06:35 AM      Profile for Star Spangled Canadian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow. "Doctor" Charles McVety is going to refute Carl Jung? What an arrogant bloody idiot.

On another note, that mural really kicks ass. I'd love to hang that in my house except that I'm sure it probably costs more than I make in a year.


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posted 24 October 2008 09:59 AM      Profile for contrarianna     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by G. Pie:
I'd never heard of this McVety asshole. Which rock did he crawl out from under?

If only he were that obscure.
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Not along ago, McVety's organization, and other groups participating in his Defend Marriage Coalition, would have been seen as occupying the fringe right. Today the Conservatives appear to be courting them in an attempt to build an enduring political coalition that includes religiously conservative evangelicals, Catholics, Jews and others. When federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty presented his first budget in May 2006, McVety was his guest in the House of Commons VIP gallery. He had been drafted to help sell the government's child care policy -

Harper Index

See also the WalrusStephen Harper and the Theo-Cons

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posted 24 October 2008 11:43 AM      Profile for Buddy Kat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So the shaman travels between different dream states etc....wonder if he is using the amanita muscaria (hallucinogenic)mushroom referenced in the painting to do so?

I find it interesting that there is a hermaphroditic twist to this ....after all the indians in some toxic areas of Canada suffer from femminism (physilogical) due to chemical toxicity.


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posted 24 October 2008 11:51 AM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Star Spangled Canadian:
On another note, that mural really kicks ass. I'd love to hang that in my house except that I'm sure it probably costs more than I make in a year.
I thought so too and if you got out of the stock market two months ago and have lots of cash on hand it might be a good time to buy some great art.

Coghlan art


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posted 24 October 2008 11:55 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does McVety have any relation to Young Life Canada?
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aka Mycroft
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posted 24 October 2008 12:01 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We should get the Governor General to hang a Dali painting at Rideau Hall during the cabinet swearing in so we can say that Canada is officially a surreal country.
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posted 24 October 2008 12:24 PM      Profile for contrarianna     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by N.Beltov:
Does McVety have any relation to Young Life Canada?

I don't know but I doubt it. From the biographies of the principle leaders on their site the organization, (though with an evangelical lean), is not really dominionist and, by that criterion, does not seem objectionable.

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posted 24 October 2008 02:35 PM      Profile for RosaL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The picture is incredible!

"Mural", I mean.

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posted 24 October 2008 04:30 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by N.Beltov:
Does McVety have any relation to Young Life Canada?

I would say, perhaps.

National Board:

Preston Manning
Calgary, AB
Chair Manning Centre for Building Democracy

The Walrus

http://www.ecpcentre.org/p-archive.php?id=57

Charles Allard
Edmonton, AB
President Rosedale Meadow Developments Inc

The Allard name is totally connected with Focus on the Family, which is also deeply connected to McVety and his Canada Family Action Coalition.


Anyhow just google the Board members names individually and the staff too, with an accompanying ender Canada Family Action Coalition, focus on the Family, or even Charles McVety. Or even Tristian Emmanuel.


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posted 24 October 2008 04:34 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
G Pie here is some more on McVetyès latest endeavors

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If you're among those who haven't yet heard about it, Bill C-10 is an amendment to Canada's federal Income Tax Act, now proceeding through Third Reading by the Senate. It would allow the Canadian Heritage Minister (currently, the Hon. Josee Verner) or a designated flunky to deny the tax credit for 25% of labour costs now enjoyed by makers of Canadian films, where the product is somehow offensive. The withdrawal of this tax preference can be retroactive, even where the government has already invested in a given production, if the film is obnoxious enough to the sensibilities of a strategically placed someone-or-other. The fact that^bç the fundamentalist demagogue Charles McVety has taken credit for persuading the government to adopt the measure^ébç (even if his claims are designed more to solicit further donations from his flock than anything else) does give one pause, at least insofar as it indicates the quarters from which approval is forthcoming.

http://whigca.blogspot.com/2008_03_01_archive.html


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quote:
Originally posted by remind:
G Pie here is some more on McVetyès latest endeavors

Everytime I turn around, there's a new enemy somewhere. Personally, the word "values" now sets off alarm bells for me.


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