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'lance
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posted 04 June 2004 06:39 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A Beach Too Far

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This year's onslaught of D-Day hype—a continuous barrage of World War II nostalgia stretching from Memorial Day weekend through George Bush's trip to Europe these next few days—has already exhausted all but the most diehard buffs. Newsmagazines splash gritty old photos of GIs from the Good War and marked-up invasion maps across their glossy pages. Historians from Martin Gilbert to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar have published books exalting soldierly valor. In various speeches George Bush links the siege of Normandy to the siege of Baghdad in what he portrays as one seamless American mission. Building on the mythmaking efforts of past presidents, and with the ready help of the media, Bush has spun a simple tale of American bravery in defense of democracy—of a golden moment when ordinary Yankee sons began the liberation of foreign peoples solely because they believed in freedom.

Obviously, the invasion of Normandy was a crucial event in American history, worthy of commemoration. But so are many of the events of World War II, and it's worth asking why V-E Day, for example, or V-J Day, or for that matter the death of Franklin Roosevelt doesn't serve as the focus of our national remembrance. Why does D-Day prompt Tom Brokaw to hustle into a helicopter and report to us for three nights from the skies above Omaha Beach?



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al-Qa'bong
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posted 04 June 2004 06:52 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As someone whose been nostalgic for this era ever since childhood, I can't explain.

I've made the pilgrimage to the invasion beaches twice, but haven't had much of an urge to go to other battlefields. Perhaps the reason is that the place is a beach, and is thus part of the more permanent natural world, unlike an equally important site, such a Stalingrad.

I should add that there are many people who tour what's left of the trenches of the Great War's Western Front who have no urge to visit Normandie.

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Stephen Gordon
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posted 04 June 2004 09:20 PM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think it's a big deal because it's one of the biggest 'what-ifs?' of the last century. Its success was by no means a sure thing, and if it had failed, the outcome of WWII would have most certainly been greatly altered. The allies would not have been able to mount another invasion for several months, if ever.

If the D-Day landings had failed, WWII would have ended very differently, with incalculable consequences. Imagine how the history of the second half of the 20th century would have evolved if Western Europe had been liberated by the Red Army.

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al-Qa'bong
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posted 04 June 2004 11:53 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I think it's a big deal because it's one of the biggest 'what-ifs?' of the last century.

You might think that, and you're quite correct, although the invasion would have been delayed over a year had it failed, but do you think this is what Tom Brokaw and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar think?

Is it possible that USians can look at D-Day as that bright spot in time between when they finally entered the war (D-Day Dodgers and the 8th Air Force regardless) and the dropping of the Atom Bomb when they were looked upon as heroes by the whole world?


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wei-chi
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posted 05 June 2004 12:13 PM      Profile for wei-chi   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I didn't realize this was a big thing. Not watching TV sometimes leaves me feeling out of the loop.

I did watch a CBC report on it, but of course it focused on Canadians. It didn't seem to glorify war or anything. It seemed appropriate and French citizens did turn out to say thanks - once again.


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Fidel
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posted 05 June 2004 05:49 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My French-Canadien father was thanked by the locals in France. Not at D-Day though. Dad rolled through the Arch de Triomphe in a tank with les Regiment de Trois Rivieres and Montgomery's Eighth Armored Division. They went on to Holland and finally Belgium in '45.

salut!


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