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nonsuch
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posted 25 February 2002 07:54 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Required Reading

Web sites: www.worldwatch.org
www.welfarewatch.toronto.on.ca
www.huppi.com/kangaroo/tenets.htm

Books

John Kenneth Galbraith: The Good Society

Judy Rebick : Imagine Democracy

Linda Mc Quaig: The Rich Banker’s Wife
Shooting the Hippo
Behind Closed Doors
The Cult of Impotence

Maude Barlow: Global Showdown (with Tony Clarke)
Class warfare (with Heather-Jane Robertson)

Tony Clarke: Silent Coup
MAI (with Maude Barlow)

Mel Hurtig: Pay the Rent or Feed the Kids

Lars Osberg & Pierre Fortin: Unnecessary Debts

James Laxer: Naming Rumplestiltskin
False God

Lester Brown, Christopher Flavin, Hilary French: State of the World 2001

Michael Keating: Canada and the State of the Planet

James F. Welles: The Story of Stupidity

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Paul Krugman
The Return of Depression Economics

James Laxer
In Search of a New Left
The Undeclared War

Linda McQuaig
All You Can Eat

Harry Shutt
The Trouble with Capitalism

Walter Stewart
Bank Heist
Belly Up
Dismantling the State: Downsizing to Disaster
The Charity Game: The Truth Behind the High Cost of Giving

Lars Osberg & Pierre Fortin
Unnecessary Debts is also known as Hard Money, Hard Times

James Galbraith
Created Unequal: The Crisis in American Pay

Andrew Hacker
Money

Murray Dobbin
The Myth of the Good Corporate Citizen
Preston Manning and the Reform Party

David Korten
When Corporations Rule the World

Ravi Batra
The Great Depression of 1990 (more for historical interest than anything else; particularly on his thesis that wage inequality causes recessions)
The Myth of Free Trade (for a new look at the pivotal year 1973 and how the loss of manufacturing plays a key role in unhinging wages from productivity)
The Great American Deception (which expands a bit on _Myth_ and discusses other lousy economic policies such as the supply-sider virus that hit during the Reagan years)
The Crash of the Millennium: The Coming Inflationary Depression (although the title is overblown, the NASDAQ and Dow *have* dropped significantly from their highs and this has precipitated a recession, but more importantly, this book has an excellent two-chapter primer on basic economics plus a theory which numerically analyzes the unhinging of wages from productivity, and develops a conceptual framework for how this "wage gap" can fundamentally alter economies)

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posted 26 February 2002 10:08 AM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Culture Jam by Kalle Lasn
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Are there movie versions of any of these? Or coles notes versions?
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Robert Shiller - Irrational Exuberance

J. K. Galbraith - Many books, Culture of Contentment

David Stockman - The Triumph of Politics


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posted 26 February 2002 01:20 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ooh, I almost forgot:

Jim Stanford
Paper Boom

Naomi Klein
No Logo

Kevin Taft
Shredding the Public Interest
Clear Answers


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posted 26 February 2002 02:36 PM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
oh my, we're all so serious! we need some fiction on this list before my head explodes.....

How about....

Infinite Jest, David Foster Wallace
Midnight's Children, Salman Rushdie
The Passion, Jeanette Winterson
Not Wanted on the Voyage, Timothy Findley
If on a winter's night a traveller, Italo Calvino


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 26 February 2002 02:40 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If it's fiction you want:

Girlfriend In A Coma and Shampoo Planet by Douglas Coupland.

Ecstacy Club by Douglas Rushkoff

Trainspotting by Irvine Welsh(sp?)

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams


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How they sold our Canada to the U.S.A. By Andrew Lamorie. Hard to find but worth the read.
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Trout Fishing in America by Richard Brautigan
Valis by Philip K Dick
Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson

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I fall asleep reading fiction. Once I'm done with a couple books I'm going to finally read gramsci's prison diaries, which I hear are brutal and written in code.

One of the best books I have is "King Leopolds Ghost" by Adam Hochschild. About the Congo when It was owned by the king of Belgium. (Not by Belgium but by the king). Before reading or watching Lumumba one should read this book for a history lesson. It's non partison and out of the diaries of the colonialists who's feelings towards the africans were so low that they felt no shame and a great bit of pride in writing about it.In my opinion everyone should read this book on the left and right because the book itself isn't about left or right but right and wrong.


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William Wangerin - The Book of the Dun Cow
James Thurber - The Thirteen Clocks

edited to replace a book i mentioned in reviews

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Memoirs of a Geisha is a fantastic novel. I don't remember who the author is though.
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Ronald Wright, Stolen Continents.

Essential reading is an understatement here. It is the story of the conquests of the Americas, told mainly in the texts of the first nations themselves (texts that I was taught didn't exist).

It is beautiful, inspiring, in spite of the horrors -- it changed the way I think of my own history.


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I'm with you there, skdadl. Follow this up with "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown) and "In the Spirit of Crazy Horse" (Peter Matthiessen).

For a Canadian perspective - THE LIFE AND DEATH OF ANNA MAE AQUASH, Johanna Brand, second ed. 1993 (original,1978), James Lorimer and Company


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for more canadian perspective people should read

Nation to Nation: aboriginal sovereighnty and the future of canada editors are Diane Englestad.

People of the Pines by Geoffrey York & Loreen Pinden. About the Oka dispute and the history of the region.

One Dead Indian by Peter Edwards. About Dudley George and Ipperwash

Out of all these books, people of the pines is my favorite.

Another really good book is The autobiography of Malcom X . It was begun before the break between malcom and Elijah Muhammed and ended just before his death. It's way better than the movie and made me very sad to read. It also gives you a good history of black culture in that century from the jazz legends he used to hang around with before he was sent to jail for burglary. It's a really great book.


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The Mismeasure of Man - Stephen Jay Gould
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E.F. Schumacher - 'small is beautiful'
Fritjof Capra - 'The Web of Life'
J. R. Mcneill - 'something new under the sun'
Jeremy Rifkin - 'The Biothech Century'

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I just thought of two very essential books. The delightful books of EH Gombrich, The Story of Art and Art and Illusion
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I credit Noam Chomsky with first enlightening my understanding of political history way back when. Prior to Noam, ignorance was indeed, bliss. Damn him.

I've found it eerie--and instructive--to skim back over his

The Culture Of Terrorism, and
The Real Terror Network.

If one has an historical perspective to draw from, the powers that be become transparent and predictable: while those two books focus on Reagan vs. Central America, one could easily substitute Bush vs....well, that Axis thingy.

I am also recommending John Berger.
His novel To The Wedding moved me to tears. Among other things, it is a mature portrait of unconditional love--the perfect tonic for when one is tempted to give up on the human race. Like right about now. Apparently Michael Ondaatje felt much the same way I do, to go by his back-cover remarks. Do yourself a favour and have a look.


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Arthur Koestler - The Ghost in the Machine
Scott and Helen Nearing - The Good Life
Timothy Findley - Not Wanted on the Voyage*

(* Do NOT attempt to read this on public transit! The crying upsets other passengers.)


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Peter Carey - True History of the Kelly Gang

A truly superior novel.


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Philip K. Dick - Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Jan Wong - Red China Blues
Douglas Coupland - Microserfs
Ann-Marie MacDonald - Fall On Your Knees
Thomas Homer-Dixon - The Ingenuity Gap

(and a second for) Kalle Lasn - Culture Jam

I'm sure there's many others I've forgotten...

[edited to say] such as:
Pat Capponi - The War at Home

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Elisabeth Gaskell - "Mary Barton"

Amin Maalouf - "The Crusades through Arab Eyes"

Lewis Carroll - "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland"

Leo Tolstoy - "War and Peace"

Fred Dostoyevsky - anything

Dear Old Jack - "Big Sur"

W.O. Mitchell - "Who Has Seen the Wind"

Raymond Chandler - "The High Window"

Leonard Cohen - "Beautiful Losers" (why won't he write novels anymore??? )


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quote:
Leonard Cohen - "Beautiful Losers" (why won't he write novels anymore??? )

I imagine he makes a much better living as a song writer, especially when so many other artists cover his songs.


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I like his songs OK, but his novels (well, at least his second one) are incredible.
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Germinale by Zola

phenomenal book. The best argument for socialism that I have ever read. Way better than Marx, and a lot less boring.


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Don Quixote - Miguel de Cervantes

The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Barabbas - Par Lagerkvist

The Last Temptation Of Christ - Nikos Kazantzakis

Freedom From The Known - Krishnamurti


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As far as movies go, "Jesus of Montreal" is ten times better than "Last Temptation."

And I don't see what all the controversy is about, if one is not capable of feeling tempted then there is no choice. Robots do not feel temptation, thus they are incapable of resisiting it.

As far as books:

In Times Like These - Nellie McClung

On Edcuation/The Great Code - Northrup Frye

Seven Sins of Memory - Daniel Schacter

On Intelligence - Stephen Ceci

The Satanic Verses - Salmon Rushdie

Cat's Eye - Margaret Atwood

The Cult of Impotence - Linda McQuaig

Jacob Two-Two and the Dinosaur - Mordicai Richler

Gould never mentioned Ceci? Tisk Tisk.

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quote:
Germinale by Zola

Oui, "Germinal" est top.

Have you seen the movie, with Depardieu, Miou Miou, and Renaud? It's a pretty good adaptation.

If you liked Germinal, try Mrs. Gaskell's "Mary Barton."


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"Doh!"

Required reading? Here's an omission of Homeric proportions:


"Politics and the English Language" - Eric Blair

MMmmmm...Victory gin....


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Exceptional articles on the background of the U.S. administration's gutting of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW):

George Monbiot's prediction of the U.S. attack on Director General Jose Bustani

Statement of the Director General, 21 April 2002 -- go to the statement when you get to the site.

Monbiot's account of how Bustani was removed

(Going to check with editor of this site about copying Bustani's entire speech somewhere -- I don't know how long it's going to remain on that site. I have it saved, if anyone wants it.)


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Against the Megamachine by David Watson
Reading Capital Politically by Harry Cleaver
The Politics of Ecstasy by Timothy Leary
Anarchy In Action by Colin Ward
Where the Wasteland Ends by Theodore Roszack
The Anarchist Collectives In Spain by Sam
Dolgoff
TAZ by Hakim Bey
This World We Must Leave by Jacques Camatte
Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson
Startide Rising by David Brin
Queen of Angels by Greg Bear
anything by Octavia Butler
Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs
The Western Lands by WSB
Cities of the Red Night by WSB
The Ticket That Exploded by WSB
Solaris by Stanislav Lem
Riverworld by Phillip Jose Farmer
Psychotic Reactions and Carborateur Dung by
Lester Bangs
Rock and the Pop Narcotic by Joe Carducci
I Smell Esther Williams by Mark Leyner
The Lizard Club by Steve Abbot
Nadja by Andre Breton
The Immaculate Conception by Andre Breton and
Paul Eluard
Bed of Sphinxes and Other Poems by Phillip
Lamantia
Valis by Phillip K. Dick
The Dispossessed by Ursula K. LeGuin
The Death of Nature by Carolyn Merchant
Fugitive Writings by Peter Kropotkin
Class War: A Decade of Disorder anthology
Up From Eden by Ken Wilber
Sex, Ecology and Spirituality by Ken Wilber
Empire by Toni Negri and Michael Hardt
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hey guys which book by linda Mcquaig would be best you think? Also I am looking for something possibly on the influence of the US on canadian policies. or something to do with corporate influence on politics...

sometihng along those lines.

thanks


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For anyone who cares I just got All you Can Eat-greed lust and the New Capitalism by Linda McQuaig.

I will let all know how it goes.


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Donald Westlake - Humans
Samuel Delany - Dhalgren
Terry Pratchett - Small Gods
John Brunner - The Jagged Orbit
John le Carre - The Tailor of Panama
- The Night Manager
Tom Holt - Flying Dutch
Sheri S. Tepper - The Family Tree
- Gate to Women's Country
Jamie Malenowski - Mr. Stupid Goes to Washington
W.O. Mitchell - Vanishing Point

(Welcome to the congregation, Beproud! We've pretty much counted all Linda McQuaig books as essential reading from the start.)

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Vaudree I admit that Jesus of Montreal was a fine film but whether or not it is a better film than The Last Temptation of Christ is a debate I am not equipped to engage in . With the presence of Harry Dean Stanton as John the Baptist , David Bowie as Pontius Pilate , Harvey Keitel as Judas Iscariot , and Willem Defoe as The Nazarene I admit that my sentimental vote goes to The Last Temptation of Christ . Not to forget the beautiful score by Peter Gabriel . Anyhow the film in no way matches the profundity of Kazantzakis' genius for communicating with a great simplicity of language , the ineluctable beauty of the human spirits' endless struggle for illumination and for liberty .

More essential reading from my little library upon the sea ...

The Collected Works of Ken Wilber

The Act of Creation - Arthur Koestler

Voltaires Bastards - John Ralston Saul

Tradition and Revolution - Krishnamurti

Road to Heaven : Encounters With Chinese Hermits
by Bill Porter

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Grasshopper, Krishnamurti's books had a formative effect on me in my youth. I don't regret it, indeed, I'm still grateful. However, I'm just curious why you recommend this one as opposed to others.

As for Jesus of Montreal, I must differ. I found it a typical example of Canadian smugness and sanctimoniousness (even though it is Quebecois!). Quite trite on the whole.


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quote:
I found it a typical example of Canadian smugness and sanctimoniousness (even though it is Quebecois!).

You interest me strangely, rasmus. I've seen the movie two or three times -- preferring it to The Last Temptation of Christ, incidentally, for its generally lighter touch -- and can't recall anything about it that struck me as smug or sanctimonious. (For that matter, apart from the setting and some local references and jokes, it didn't seem to me to have much to do with Canada or Quebec at all). Could you elaborate?


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Much Canadian art suffers from halo syndrome, and this was no exception. I'm going on very old impressions, mind you, impressions coloured by having seen the movie in Montreal, in 1989, with my American friends whose first reaction was "what a piece of shit!" -- perhaps I was embarrassed for Canada? Does recollection mislead me, if I say the film was obsessed with the problem of authenticity? I'm not on entirely solid footing here, I just remember having formed these opinions, some of them a few years after the fact.
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"Essential Reading." Am I in the right thread?
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Rasmus_Raven

I suppose I could have recommended The Wholeness of Life , or The Ending of Time (both with David Bohm ) just as easily . I believe that Freedom From The Known is the only book that Krishnamurti actually wrote (the rest being transcripted dialogues) I recommend it above in my first post on this thread . Tradition and Revolution is the most comprehensive introduction to K in my opinion .Also I find his syntax in this volume to be refreshing .

To be fair , it has been a long time since I saw Jesus of Montreal but I do remember the lead actor Lothair Bluteau , so he must have given a strong performance .

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quote:
Does recollection mislead me, if I say the film was obsessed with the problem of authenticity?

Well, that's never been my impression of it. First and foremost, I think of the movie as something of an affectionate joke -- not a mean-spirited joke on the audience or the characters, mind you, or even on the Church, but a rather sad, extended joke with a point, something about the profane and sacred not being that radically opposed after all. Or a species of "magic realism," if you like.

However that may be, at the very least I didn't think it was "obsessed" with anything at all. Generally, the tone isn't that of obsession, I found.

As for your American friends -- so much the worse for them! Did you take them to see Decline of the American Empire?

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"Essential Reading." Am I in the right thread?

Now, now, writer... if we can't indulge in a little thread drift on a book thread, where can we?


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Alix
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posted 26 April 2002 01:12 PM      Profile for Alix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Stardance trilogy (Stardance, Starseed, Starmind) by Spider and Jeanne Robinson
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I am only just about finishing the first chapter of the book by McQuaig and I know she is a lefty but she really makes you think about the righties sometimes. Honestly i find myself pondering more about right wing and individual rights then I do with collective left wing protectionism.

As I said I am only in the first chapter so maybe she is just setting me up to knock me down and really drive in some points. I am not sure. Anyone else have any thoughts on this? the book incase you did know is all you can eat lust greed and the new capitalism.

look forward to hearing what others think. Maybe I will start a thread on it in specific as not to thread drift. I will copy and paste.. Yes I will!!

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I won't be able to get my hands on this book until the day after my birthday.
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