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Brian White
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posted 31 March 2007 06:14 PM      Profile for Brian White   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I explained to the gf that it was an adaptation to strain plankton when we were coast huggers and seashore livers way back when)
(I explained with crumbs and wiggling my lips to make the beard grab them into my mouth. (Cos there was no plankton about).
You got to be pretty unkempt to do this, so you might not get the same effect I got if you try it.
Anyways, the women back then were too busy bringing up baby to participate in this evolutionary beard lengthening.
So there it is folks.
The extra plankton (high protein) in the male diet made their brains bigger and made them more inteligent too!
And the guys with slower beards had slower minds and the beard arms race began!
(The smarter beardy guys almost always got the girl.)
What do you think of the theory?
Not much use for beards now though.

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Nanuq
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posted 31 March 2007 06:25 PM      Profile for Nanuq   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Beards are a lot more common in some racial groups than others even though we all evolved together up until about 30,000 years ago.
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 31 March 2007 06:30 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Because it's bad luck to shave in the playoffs.
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Tommy_Paine
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posted 31 March 2007 06:43 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From what I have observed from the guys at work who are bearded, it would seem to be some kind of food storage device.

Myself, I've always been clean shaven. A t-shirt can store more tasty after dinner morsels than a beard, anyway.


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posted 31 March 2007 06:46 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Nanuq:
Beards are a lot more common in some racial groups than others even though we all evolved together up until about 30,000 years ago.

Don't you mean cultural groups? After all, we can all grow facial hair( some women are even capable of it) it's just that some cultures think that beards are unnecessary. The Haida hated them. Haida men used to pull out there facial hair with clam shell tweezers.


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posted 31 March 2007 07:17 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's one thing to have facial hair, which I think all people of either gender have, and another to grow a beard.
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posted 31 March 2007 07:19 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It could be argued that men started growing beards to protect themselves from the elements. The Viking men grew beards to protect themselves from the cold. The Men of various middle eastern tribes grew beards to stop there chins from being wind burned. Beardless cultures tend to have set down roots in reasonably temporate places ( parts of China, B.C.'s lower mainland, New Zealand etc.)

Of course this theory dosen't explain the men of anchient Greece who lived in a temperate climate but grew full beards anyway.

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posted 31 March 2007 07:24 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I drive a skidoo all winter, and the beard keeps my face warm. I think it might do this by trapping body heat that is expelled through my jacket opening. How do you tell a happy skidooist? By the number of icicles in his beard.
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posted 31 March 2007 07:29 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Why do men have beards?"

If by this you mean, "Why do men have beards, but women don't?" the answer is that women have the same hair follicle distribution as men, but higher levels of testosterone in men make their facial hair grow more agressively. Give a woman testosterone treatments and she can grow a beard, too.

Beards are thus a secondary sexual characteristic, like breasts on a woman. To our ancient ancestors they were a sign of someone who had a high probability of reproductive success.

Through the process of what Darwin called "sexual selection" men with full, healthy beards and women who were attracted to them would have greater reproductive success, thereby tending to pass on to their offspring the genes that coded for higher testosterone production in males and a higher tendency in females to be attracted to bearded men. Over thousands of generations the numbers of men who tend to grow beards (whether they shave or not) would come to far outstrip the number who don't tend to have facial whiskers of any consequence.

No conscious effort was required on the part of either men or women to make this happen.

A similar evolutionary process has resulted in marked differences in appearance between males and females of many animal species, such as birds.


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posted 31 March 2007 07:38 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There are examples of beards all over the world, what about Confucius? Chief Butalazee? Osama Bin ladin? Your etnic orgin does not garauntee you an inability(or ability) to grow a beard.
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posted 31 March 2007 10:22 PM      Profile for Grizzled Wolf     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Beards are easy - any fool can let one grow. A moustache on the other hand, is an art form. I am very fond of my handlebar-esque food-strainer, and it makes up for my complete lack of a personality.
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posted 31 March 2007 10:25 PM      Profile for Legless-Marine        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by CMOT Dibbler:
There are examples of beards all over the world, what about Confucius? Chief Butalazee? Osama Bin ladin? Your etnic orgin does not garauntee you an inability(or ability) to grow a beard.

It does not guarantee, but it can predispose. I find the suggestion that ethnicity/race doesn't influence beard-growing-ability to be forced, if not ridiculous.

That being said, if you wish to to prove the beardability of asians, you may want to cite more credible example than confucious.


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marzo
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posted 01 April 2007 04:37 AM      Profile for marzo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wear my facial hair in a style similar to that of 'Will Ryker' on Star Trek:TNG.
It is not messy, it does not trap food crumbs, and it has a soft, pleasant texture.
It doesn't make much difference for keeping warm in the winter.

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Wilf Day
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posted 01 April 2007 07:35 AM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Becuase I like it.

(I started it in 1983 when someone said I looked like Joe Clark. It worked.)


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posted 01 April 2007 10:38 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about David Suzuki? He has a beard.

quote:
It does not guarantee, but it can predispose. I find the suggestion that ethnicity/race doesn't influence beard-growing-ability to be forced, if not ridiculous.

That being said, if you wish to to prove the beardability of asians, you may want to cite more credible example than confucious.


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glasstech
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posted 01 April 2007 11:36 AM      Profile for glasstech     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From M. Spector
"No conscious effort was required on the part of either men or women to make this happen."
You mean God didn't do it!!


Actually the real reason to grow a beard is so Servers will quit asking you for ID in bars.
Works for women too.


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Fidel
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posted 01 April 2007 10:41 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My hair is dirty blonde and greying at the sides. Blonde and black beards don't look too good, and now mine is greying on my chin. So I prefer to be clean shaven, and it feels smmmmooth as a baby's bottom.
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Brian White
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posted 02 April 2007 09:25 PM      Profile for Brian White   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
(It was all an april fool by the way)
Your answer raises a bunch of questions.
First off, chimps and beards? Does the male chimp have a long beard?
Second, I seriously doubt that the less beardy peoples of the world have less testosterone (in the male) and I have several lightly bearded friends who are total horn dogs.
Actually the same is said about women and their kittys.
(I havnt noticed a difference with my small sample)
Why is a beard a secondary sexual characteristic anyway? It could just as easily have been hair on the back of the neck, i guess.
quote:
Originally posted by M. Spector:
"Why do men have beards?"

If by this you mean, "Why do men have beards, but women don't?" the answer is that women have the same hair follicle distribution as men, but higher levels of testosterone in men make their facial hair grow more agressively. Give a woman testosterone treatments and she can grow a beard, too.

Beards are thus a secondary sexual characteristic, like breasts on a woman. To our ancient ancestors they were a sign of someone who had a high probability of reproductive success.

Through the process of what Darwin called "sexual selection" men with full, healthy beards and women who were attracted to them would have greater reproductive success, thereby tending to pass on to their offspring the genes that coded for higher testosterone production in males and a higher tendency in females to be attracted to bearded men. Over thousands of generations the numbers of men who tend to grow beards (whether they shave or not) would come to far outstrip the number who don't tend to have facial whiskers of any consequence.

No conscious effort was required on the part of either men or women to make this happen.

A similar evolutionary process has resulted in marked differences in appearance between males and females of many animal species, such as birds.



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