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redshift
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posted 28 September 2003 02:03 PM      Profile for redshift     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
this piece from a humour site prompted the question.
http://www.whitehouse.org/homeland/tattoo.asp
i'm finding it tougher to imagine anything too ridiculous anymore, and its hard to laugh at ideas that could become nasty reality.

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skdadl
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posted 28 September 2003 02:07 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
ts hard to laugh at ideas that could become nasty reality.

You're having that kind of day too, eh, redshift?


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Foxer
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posted 28 September 2003 02:32 PM      Profile for Foxer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wait a minute - when the subject of 'bio-identity cards' with fingerprints and dna came up no one was terribly worried about it. I dont' think that's any different. Truth is stranger than fiction i guess.
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jeff house
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posted 28 September 2003 02:45 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Excuse me, Foxer, perhaps I recall incorrectly, but were you not claiming that it was a huge interference with our freedom to maintain a gun registry?

Would it be better if there were a body registry where each and every human susceptibility were on file in a vast data bank, accessible only to the government?


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pogge
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posted 28 September 2003 02:51 PM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Foxer:
Wait a minute - when the subject of 'bio-identity cards' with fingerprints and dna came up no one was terribly worried about it.

Maybe you just weren't paying attention.


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Foxer
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posted 28 September 2003 06:07 PM      Profile for Foxer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jeff -

quote:
Excuse me, Foxer, perhaps I recall incorrectly, but were you not claiming that it was a huge interference with our freedom to maintain a gun registry?
Would it be better if there were a body registry where each and every human susceptibility were on file in a vast data bank, accessible only to the government?


Uhh - actually i came out pretty hard against the bio-card. I was noting that no one else seemed that worried, and wondered why this particular 'joke' would be unsettling if the card was not.


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jeff house
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posted 28 September 2003 06:16 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, that's good. And count me as one of those who thinks an identity card is a poor idea.
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Foxer
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posted 28 September 2003 08:38 PM      Profile for Foxer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
me too jeff - i believe it will be another multi-billion boondoggle syphoning money away from human resources who would likely do a better job, and the bad guys'll be dupeing them pretty quick.

"You don't have anything to hide do you?" is the question of the tyrant. I have nothing to hide, but I do have something to protect - my privacy. I'm sick of the gov't and police forces pining for the good ole days when they didn't need a warrent to tap phone calls, etc (they were doing that right up till the charter came in). It is wrong of the 'state' to demand to know where we are and what we are doing at all times.

BTW - just as a point of record, I was never really against the gun registry for 'privacy' reasons.


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nonsuch
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posted 29 September 2003 01:47 AM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, just register everything... food-processors, lawnmowers, saran-wrap, electric toothbrushes, vaccinations, trips to the dump, vertical blinds, bowel-movements....
At this point, our best defence is to give them all the information they want and then a lot more. Their computers will crash from data overload, and then we won't have all the mess and bother of a revolution.

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Foxer
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posted 29 September 2003 06:36 AM      Profile for Foxer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Makes sense nonesuch - MY computer tells me I have registry errors all the time

Hahaha. Ha. aha. Ahem.

(fine, i'll just go sit in the corner then.)


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Mandos
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posted 29 September 2003 10:47 AM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
AFAICT, we are at the point where giving all the information you want will not crash any computer on its own. It won't work. There are also increasingly efficient ways to filter out useless data.
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