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Contrarian
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posted 21 March 2005 04:32 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Better than baking soda, better than absorbshun, it's rock dust!
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...Specialists have just met in Perth to discuss the secrets of rock dust, a quarrying by-product that is at the heart of government-sponsored scientific trials and which, it is claimed, could revitalise barren soil and reverse climate change.

The recognition of the healing powers of rock dust comes after a 20-year campaign by two former schoolteachers, Cameron and Moira Thomson. They have been battling to prove that rock dust can replace the minerals that have been lost to the earth over the past 10,000 years and, as a result, rejuvenate the land and halt climate change.

To prove their point, the couple have converted six acres of open, infertile land in the Grampian foothills near Pitlochry into a modern Eden. Using little more than rock dust mixed with compost, they have created rich, deep soils capable of producing cabbages the size of footballs, onions bigger than coconuts and gooseberries as big as plums.

"This is a simple answer which doesn't involve drastic life changes by anyone," Ms Thomson said. "People don't have to stop driving cars to do this, just spread some rock dust on their gardens. We could cover the earth with rock dust and start to absorb carbon in a more natural fashion which, along with reducing emissions and using a combination of other initiatives, will have a better and faster response."...


This sounds like snake oil to me; like back when the prairies were being settled and everyone thought if we planted enough trees it would change the climate; possibly that might have been true, but in fact we could not plant enough trees to make that big a difference, and many were killed by drought in the 1930s. It's too easy, it can't solve the whole problem.

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nonsuch
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posted 21 March 2005 05:28 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Using little more than rock dust mixed with compost,

Mix enough compost with sand, clay, chalk - anything - and you get cabbages.
What's the 'little more'?
And what kind of rock dust? Lime has been used for hundreds of years. It was said: "The man who spreads lime on his land enriches his son and bankrupts his grandson."
But you can't go wrong with compost.

[ 21 March 2005: Message edited by: nonesuch ]


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LeftRight
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posted 21 March 2005 09:30 PM      Profile for LeftRight   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Contrarian:
Better than baking soda, better than absorbshun, it's rock dust! This sounds like snake oil to me; like back when the prairies were being settled and everyone thought if we planted enough trees it would change the climate; possibly that might have been true, but in fact we could not plant enough trees to make that big a difference, and many were killed by drought in the 1930s. It's too easy, it can't solve the whole problem.

No, not the whole problem. Rock dust containing essencial minerals (or metals) are good, like iron, zinc, magnesium etc.. As far as converting CO2 to carbohydrate using plant growth (especially trees) is a good idea. That added application to a reduction CO2 emissions from combustion engines would be a start. With this pine beetle infestation that's going to be a great challenge to all our human resources.

Another thought I was working on was a theory on heat transduction to electricity: a cooling system that produces electricity instead of using it (a win win theory). Supercooling air to solidify CO2 into a solid and using it in manufacturing and horticulture are two byproducts of the system. Another is using the electricity to produce hydrogen from water for a different combustion system. Supercooling is used in many manufacturing systems, so this method would self economizing.

Finally an amusing thought from that: if we put enough heat to electricity transducers at the north and south poles, we could refreeze them.

Basically the system would work like this (in theory): two magnets (one magnet a coil and the other a rod) they are permanent magnets and the rod is placed in the coil. This produces a voltage surge and a current. The current is passed through a resistor or connected to a battery for recharging (whatever). There are four leads (leeds) from the magnet assembly: a positive and negative are connected to a sheet of metal that is used as the heat catch, the other two are connected to the battery for charging or a resistor for re-emmitting the heat at a different location or for electrolyzing water into hydrogen and oxygen....that's the theory, but I've never tested it.


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