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DrConway
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posted 09 September 2004 03:28 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
1. Thanks Audra! *hugs*

2. I got this link from a Mac-using buddy of mine, and had to laugh.

(Edited to reflect NEW forum-title)

[ 09 September 2004: Message edited by: DrConway ]


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Anchoress
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posted 09 September 2004 03:35 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm HOME!
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posted 09 September 2004 03:40 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is this Son of Ideas?

And where did rasmus go?

Suspicious, me.


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Michelle
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posted 09 September 2004 03:41 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Haha! I didn't think you'd actually call it that!
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lagatta
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posted 09 September 2004 03:42 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't understand - is this more a science and technology forum? Are historians still welcome here?
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Albireo
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posted 09 September 2004 03:43 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Egg Head Forum ? Sure, that'll lure people in to talk about Science, etc...
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Anchoress
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posted 09 September 2004 03:43 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
From science to philosophy, talk about what you (or those more famous than you) have been thinking and doing lately.

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skdadl
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posted 09 September 2004 03:47 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lagatta:
I don't understand - is this more a science and technology forum? Are historians still welcome here?

Like, yeah.

Like, us persons in the humanities don't got ideas or something?

And what did you do with rasmus???


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josh
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posted 09 September 2004 03:50 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What was wrong with "ideas"? I hate the term "egg head."
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Michelle
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posted 09 September 2004 04:07 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Like, us persons in the humanities don't got ideas or something?

As Anchoress pointed out, the description was "from science to philosophy". So, I'm trying to figure out how people could think that history and other humanities subjects are left out.

"Ideas" was too vague. This forum is supposed to be a place where people can discuss whatever subjects they would like in whatever discipline of study interests them. If we had a separate forum for each discipline, the babble main page would scroll down forever.

I don't see anything wrong with calling it the "Egghead forum". It's meant in a lighthearted way, just like most of the forum descriptions are.

[ 09 September 2004: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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skdadl
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posted 09 September 2004 04:34 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So, ok, but what did you do with rasmus? If someone doesn't tell me soon where you put rasmus, I am going to form a liberation front.
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Jingles
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posted 09 September 2004 04:38 PM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does this mean we'll get a Dumbass forum, too?

We could call it Freedominion....


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beverly
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posted 09 September 2004 04:43 PM      Profile for beverly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dumbass - Freedominion

Note to self: Must not laugh will pee pants.

I was just explaining to someone the other day over eggs benny how humpty dumpty is a very violent little jingle.

Guess, he was a broken egg head.


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Michelle
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posted 09 September 2004 04:43 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I didn't do anything with anyone. Audra redid the forums. I haven't the foggiest clue how to do that stuff here.

Hey, how come you didn't form a liberation front when I disappeared from the banter forum on the front page?? I'm hurt.


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steffie
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posted 09 September 2004 06:00 PM      Profile for steffie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
re: identifying "egg-heads" with the Scientifics - comeon, people, all our ideas come from one place: our 'egg' - only some people's shells are thicker than others! (would those be the slow, space-y types like me?) *Cue sitar riff*

I'm suggesting to people around here that we emulate Humpty Dumpty - and have a Great Fall! *groan* (yeah, that's what they do, too)


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skdadl
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posted 09 September 2004 06:10 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle -- they disappeared you too?

'Scuse me -- gotta check m'self.


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posted 09 September 2004 06:12 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ages ago! And you never noticed! Hmph!
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skdadl
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posted 09 September 2004 06:13 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nope -- lagatta and I are still there.

And Michelle! You still have the Middle East!

You lucky duck!

*snerk*


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Michelle
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posted 09 September 2004 06:14 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes. Although Oliver Cromwell is showing some promise in that direction, so you never know...
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Stephen Gordon
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posted 09 September 2004 06:18 PM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
NNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

:kickingandscreamingsmilie:


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skdadl
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posted 09 September 2004 06:29 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But back to the main topic: what did audra do with rasmus?

He has been probably the best-behaved babbler of all time for the last couple of years. I don't even speak to him any more, he's so proper.


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audra trower williams
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posted 09 September 2004 06:32 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I didn't do ANYTHING with rasmus!

This isn't called "the egghead forum" anymore. I was just being funny.


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skdadl
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posted 09 September 2004 06:35 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Welcome to babble, audra.
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beverly
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posted 09 September 2004 06:51 PM      Profile for beverly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I kinda liked the name.

I though we could make up a theme song and everything.


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Anchoress
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posted 09 September 2004 06:53 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Me too. I think 'ideas' is WAAAAAY better than 'thinking cap'.
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posted 09 September 2004 06:58 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like "thinking cap." Concrete, yet whimsical.
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posted 09 September 2004 07:11 PM      Profile for Debra   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Come on now 'lance a concrete thinking cap would be more painful than whimsical.
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Stephen Gordon
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Yeah. Sounds too much like first-year linear algebra.
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audra trower williams
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posted 09 September 2004 07:15 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When it was called "Ideas", it seemed to PARALYZE the people who felt they had NO WHERE TO TALK ABOUT SCIENCE AND/OR TECHNOLOGY.
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Anchoress
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posted 09 September 2004 07:25 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well then change it back to Egghead then - *anything* but thinking cap lol. When I hear 'thinking cap' it reminds me of kindergarten teachers trying to help kids remember where they left their mittens.
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Anything is better than helmet head.
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Well if we're going to have a 'dumbass' forum maybe this could be called the 'poindexter' forum.
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beverly
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posted 09 September 2004 07:41 PM      Profile for beverly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think we should have a dumbass forum there is already a whole board dedicated to that already, and it might attract more trolls.
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posted 09 September 2004 07:46 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry, should have included the 'kidding' smiley with my post lol.
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posted 09 September 2004 07:58 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The problem with Science threads around here is they don't often generate a lot of debate or controversy. Once in a while you get a 'What has Science done for me lately?' or 'LOOK what Science has done to me lately!' response that can give a thread some traction. More often they fade swiftly to oblivion. I'm not sure what changing the forum name will do about that.

Good Science Forum


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posted 09 September 2004 08:29 PM      Profile for Rand McNally     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think I liked the simple "Ideas" over this new name. However, I am getting cranky in my old age, and dislike change.
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posted 09 September 2004 11:03 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am one of those who argued for a "Science and Technology" forum... see this thread, which fizzled without much discussion.

I'm not sure if a goal of this new forum is to attract more Science & Technology (among other subects) news and discussion; if so, I think that a forum called "Thinking Cap" will be no more successful than was "Ideas". The only difference will be that it has (IMHO) a sillier name. People will still put things all over the place, especially in News.

[Edited to add:]

Perhaps we should also do away with the "Left Brain" & "Right Brain" groupings. (This is a subject for another thread in Rabble Reactions, but I'll mention it in the context of this forum). The left/right brain distinction is overblown anyway, but I wonder -- if "Thinking Cap" is supposed to cover "from the sciences to the humanities", then what is so "right brain" about it?

[ 09 September 2004: Message edited by: Albireo ]


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posted 09 September 2004 11:10 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll tackle the left/right thing tomorrow, since it seems to cause you some concern.

Your main argument last time seemed to be that people didn't know where to put science threads, so they ended up all over, so we should have a science forum. Well, I specified in the description to this forum that science threads should go here. I don't know what else I can do for you.


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posted 10 September 2004 12:27 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
When I hear 'thinking cap' it reminds me of kindergarten teachers trying to help kids remember where they left their mittens.

I agree.

What is so "vague" about "ideas"? Is an idea just a nebulous ephemeron until someone figgers how to turn E=mc2 into thermonuclear warheads?

And "Egghead" is someone who fights Batman, besides being a hurtful slur against anyone without a duncecap.

[ 10 September 2004: Message edited by: al-Qa'bong ]


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quote:
Originally posted by steffie:

I'm suggesting to people around here that we emulate Humpty Dumpty - and have a Great Fall!


Or as I saw on some forum or other; "You could be a protestor like a Buddhist priest, and emulate yourself."

Or does nitpicking on grammar and spelling go elsewhere?


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posted 10 September 2004 12:31 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's a good one. Too bad it originated elsewhere, as it is Hall o' Fameworthy.
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posted 10 September 2004 12:48 AM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I remember a little while ago that people were wondering about the possibility of an Environment Forum... is that included under this category, then?
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posted 10 September 2004 11:39 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Depends, I guess. If it's oriented towards actions you can take to improve the environment, then maybe the "activism" forum would be best. If it's about studies done in environmental science or whatever, then this would probably be a good place.
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posted 11 September 2004 05:56 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
skdadl:
quote:
I am going to form a liberation front

and you'll end up like the guy in the black robes in Life of Brian - all alone, without enough change to buy a bag of otters' noses.

Kindergarten is in! Wanna trade your lunchables (tm) for an organic apple?


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quote:
Originally posted by Contrarian:

Or as I saw on some forum or other; "You could be a protestor like a Buddhist priest, and emulate yourself."

Or does nitpicking on grammar and spelling go elsewhere?


Nitpicking is fine, but please tell me what my mistake was. Emulate, is not the right word? Maybe mimic? Imitate?

[ 11 September 2004: Message edited by: steffie ]


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You were right; "emulate" is to mimic, "immolate" is to set oneself on fire.
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That reminds me of Carol Shields' Unless.
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posted 11 September 2004 08:46 PM      Profile for Reverend Blair   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I almost immolated the myself when lighting a cigarette just now. Note to self: Keep hair tied back while chain-smoking.

What about quasi-scientific stuff like sasquatch and whether aliens stole George Bush's brain?


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posted 11 September 2004 08:52 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
What about quasi-scientific stuff like... whether aliens stole George Bush's brain?

Oh, how cheap - this is total fiction and the worst brand of foil-hat conspiracy. The aliens could not possibly steal what is not there.

...duh.


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Thinking cap? ... Foil hat? hmmmm.
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quote:
Originally posted by steffie:
Nitpicking is fine, but please tell me what my mistake was. Emulate, is not the right word?

steffie, your Humpty joke was fine and funny. As noted by others above, it was the protestor who was supposed to immolate himself, a more painful process than emulating himself.

That comment originally stuck in my head because it would make a good obscure insult; "Oh go and emulate yourself."


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quote:
Originally posted by audra trower williams:
Your main argument last time seemed to be that people didn't know where to put science threads, so they ended up all over, so we should have a science forum. Well, I specified in the description to this forum that science threads should go here. I don't know what else I can do for you.
Fair enough. I can appreciate that this is a sincere effort to address suggestions from me and others, and I can see that mentioning "Science" in the forum description is a good step. However, the name "thinking cap" is kind of cringe-inducing.

There was a request for a "Science and Technology" forum. That alone, in name and content, would be great. However, I can understand why you'd want something broader than that, which can encompass things like philosopy, history, social sciences, etc.: a hang-out not only for science geeks but all kinds of intellectuals. After all, you don't want so many specialized forums that the site is unwieldy. So we try on names like "ideas", "egghead" (a joke, I know) and "thinking cap". All of these names seem to imply some kind of intellectual discussion, but when there is a science news story, is "thinking cap" where people will want to put it? I'm not sure that people will reliably think of this forum when a star goes supernova, an ancient city is discovered in Peru or there is a kick-ass new version of Mandrake Linux. Do these require your "thinking cap" any more than the latest from Saskatchewan or the West Bank, feminism or Ask Auntie? And, yes, I agree with this:

quote:
Originally posted by Anchoress:
When I hear 'thinking cap' it reminds me of kindergarten teachers trying to help kids remember where they left their mittens.

I do have a suggestion for a forum name: Arts & Science. Think of the subjects covered within a university's Faculty of Arts & Science, e.g. check out this list. It ain't just science, from astronomy to zoology... it's math, anthropology, philosopy, languages and literatures, psychology, philosophy, religious studies and computer science... It's everything that would be fair game in this forum. (OK, so there's also some other stuff that doesn't fit as well, like Commerce, or which steps on the toes of other forums, like Political Science, but in general it's a damned good fit for what we want here). Plus, the name Arts & Science doesn't deter science news stories. The name may, in some folks minds, conflict with "arts and culture", but perhaps that forum could be renamed & refocused as something like "culture & pop culture" (catchier name needed, perhaps).

I hope that's a constructive suggestion, but somebody may have a better one.

[ 12 September 2004: Message edited by: Albireo ]


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posted 12 September 2004 01:55 AM      Profile for Reverend Blair   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How 'bout "Arts and Science and Sasquatches and Stuff?"
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posted 12 September 2004 02:05 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Or 'Think Tank'
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quote:
Originally posted by Reverend Blair:
How 'bout "Arts and Science and Sasquatches and Stuff?"


that gets my vote.


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I like it. I have a high cringe threshold.


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posted 13 September 2004 03:35 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ha!

And here I thought we shared so much, oldgoat.

I quite like Think Tank, actually. Still grown up, but a little freshened up.

If not that, go back to Ideas.

skdadl has high cringe-tolerance, too, but you wouldn't want to be the pathetic recipient of it. Trust me.


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Michelle
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posted 13 September 2004 05:22 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like this forum title the best.
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audra trower williams
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posted 13 September 2004 05:30 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I figured Albiero wouldn't be happy until I used one of his suggestions, so I saved myself the heartache of future conflict
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Albireo
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posted 13 September 2004 06:44 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Aw, crap, now I have to find something else to gripe about.

[Edited to add:]

I do like it better... thanks.

[ 13 September 2004: Message edited by: Albireo ]


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nonsuch
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posted 13 September 2004 08:52 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Kindergarten is out!
Thank you. I don't think i could have brought myself to e-mail anyone a 'thinking-cap' thread.

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audra trower williams
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posted 13 September 2004 09:19 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You all have to find other things to care about.
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