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Benoit
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posted 06 November 2008 09:22 AM      Profile for Benoit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What is wrong with that?
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Bookish Agrarian
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posted 06 November 2008 09:36 AM      Profile for Bookish Agrarian   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While I have lived with the motto "size doesn't matter" for necessary reasons, in this case the answer is simple - dial up.

Large swaths of the country do not have access to high speed.


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Benoit
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posted 06 November 2008 09:40 AM      Profile for Benoit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Bookish Agrarian:
While I have lived with the motto "size doesn't matter" for necessary reasons, in this case the answer is simple - dial up.

Large swaths of the country do not have access to high speed.


Waiting a few seconds may be seen has an opportunity to think at a better reply.


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Slumberjack
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posted 06 November 2008 10:58 AM      Profile for Slumberjack     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Benoit:

Waiting a few seconds may be seen has an opportunity to think at a better reply.


So you do have high speed access then?


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Catchfire
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posted 06 November 2008 11:29 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Zing!
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laughingatu
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posted 07 November 2008 09:11 AM      Profile for laughingatu     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
perhaps going to a board style that creates a new page to each thread once it gets so long might be a better solution.
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Caissa
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posted 07 November 2008 09:37 AM      Profile for Caissa     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
En Masse and Bread and Roses don't have the long thread problem.
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bigcitygal
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posted 07 November 2008 09:52 AM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There have been lots of threads about rabble's (and babble's) current software, which is antiquated and unfixable. This software is the reason babble can't, in its current state, have different thread pages, like almost all other discussion boards out there.

Most of those threads are in rabble reactions if anyone wants a more techy answer.

I know this issue was a huge point that's been incorporated into the new design, so at some point soon, someone will have the honour of being the last person to close a thread for length. Oh I wonder who that will be.....


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oldgoat
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posted 07 November 2008 11:34 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually, we used to paginate here way back in the day, and everyone hated it. The means are there in the control panel, and if it still works, I could probably return to that in a few minutes, but I'm not going to.

I've explained my own feelings on this a number of times and don't feel like repeating at the moment all the reasons as both a moderator and a consumer why I don't like it. Enmasse and B'nR have different moderating issues, and have evolved their own unique cultures which work for them.

I guess though that were there a strong and overwhelming consensus in favour, I wouldn't be obstructionist.


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Cueball
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posted 07 November 2008 11:43 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This system is fine. Threads are mostly well past there best before date at post 50.
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jrootham
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posted 07 November 2008 11:53 AM      Profile for jrootham     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's about right, after you get past the 3 most prolific posters, there are about 10 posts from the rest of us.
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Caissa
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posted 07 November 2008 12:02 PM      Profile for Caissa     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pagination would be wonderful after the retrofit.
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Cueball
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posted 07 November 2008 12:04 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jrootham:
That's about right, after you get past the 3 most prolific posters, there are about 10 posts from the rest of us.

Can't get by a snide dig here or there, eh? Nice (not to mention pointless) drive by.

[ 07 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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bagkitty
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posted 07 November 2008 12:08 PM      Profile for bagkitty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jrootham:
That's about right, after you get past the 3 most prolific posters, there are about 10 posts from the rest of us.

Direct, accurate, to the point. The East German judge awards this post a 9.5


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Cueball
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posted 07 November 2008 12:10 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Except that Rootham appears on several threads as one of the most "prolific posters". But that is par for the course really, since attempts at silencing unwanted opinions, often has little to do with anything other sandbagging, regardless of the facts.

For example, Jrootham, alone accounts for 12 or 13 posts on this 108 post thread here: Khadr's khangaroo khourt trial, khontinued , making for about 10% of the total. When Jrootham says "there are about 10 posts from the rest of us", one might be confused into thinking that when he says "the rest of us" he means only himself.

Could it be that the East German judge's mark for East German athlete is suspect?

[ 07 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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Left J.A.B.
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posted 07 November 2008 12:42 PM      Profile for Left J.A.B.     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It really is reassuring to know you can go away from babble for a while, come back and within moments find a thread in which you continue to be an ass and making sure a thread becomes a place of hostility. It is a bit like comfort food in that way.
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Cueball
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posted 07 November 2008 12:49 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry, do you have a problem with me pointing out that contrary to his assertion JRootham is not one "the rest of us" who post occassionally, but in fact one who often gets taken up by a theme and then posts prolifically in an exchange with an individual?

This begins with Rootham's snide drive by remark, where he poses himself as being above the fracas, and with "the rest of us" who post "infrequently". But of course you will ignore that in favour of prosecuting your own personal vendetta, and accuse me of ramping up the hostility for merely pointing out the essential hypocrisy of Rootham's statement.

[ 07 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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Cueball
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posted 07 November 2008 12:53 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Caissa:
En Masse and Bread and Roses don't have the long thread problem.

Yes they do. There are huge long threads filled with endless and seemingly impossible to define sub-plots and counter arguements and huge thread drifts, and it is almost impossibl in some cases to make any sense of what the thread is about, unless you study it intensely.


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Left J.A.B.
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posted 07 November 2008 12:54 PM      Profile for Left J.A.B.     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cueball:
Sorry, do you have a problem with me pointing out that contrary to his assertion JRootham is not one "the rest of us" who post occassionally, but in fact one who often gets taken up by a theme and then posts prolifically in an exchange with an individual?

This begins with Rootham's snide drive by remark, where he poses himself as being above the fracas, and with "the rest of us" who post "infrequently". But of course you will ignore that in favour of prosecuting your own personal vendetta, and accuse me of ramping up the hostility for merely pointing out the essential hypocrisy of Rootham's statement.

[ 07 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]



I find many comfort foods are fattening and bad for my health. But they soothe the soul- that's why I like them.

Seeing you and your aggressivness is soothing because it is just so familar that is why it is so reassuring to see that nothing ever changes on babble.


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Cueball
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posted 07 November 2008 01:01 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
JRootham has said that he is not above the occassionaly snide remark, when he feels slandered. So I guess if he can dish it out, he ought to be able to take it no? What hasn't changed on this board is the ability of some people to be hypocritical.

[ 07 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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Left J.A.B.
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posted 07 November 2008 01:10 PM      Profile for Left J.A.B.     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I find the best comfort food is roast chicken with whole cloves of garlic. The smell of it cooking is just divine and never fails to call my granny to mind.
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Cueball
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posted 07 November 2008 01:12 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You cooked your granny?
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bagkitty
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posted 07 November 2008 01:19 PM      Profile for bagkitty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Granny voted Tory, and the doctor says to avoid red meat.
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jrootham
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posted 07 November 2008 01:52 PM      Profile for jrootham     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Normally I'm too damn lazy to get into extended pissing matches, but in the thread cited above I was accused of not supporting human rights. I find that a more serious slander than confusion about which political party I support.

Note: If I insert a single comment, it's a drive by, if I post a lot, it's dominating the thread.


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Cueball
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posted 07 November 2008 02:37 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well of course you would find it to be more serious slander since it is directed at yourself. There is however an element of opinion, deduced from the arguement you made, which was the basis of the accusation, which I agree was over the top.

On the other hand, no one has any basis whatsoever for being able to determine what political party that I BELONG too, based on the fact that I disagree with this that or the other position. I have disgareed with the articulated position of the NDP, based generally on the fact that they are to close to the Liberal position or the Conservative position. Such is a matter of the record.

However, to take this position, and then convert that into an arguement that I must be a member of one of those other parties, simply by the fact that I articulate positions that do not correspond to those of the NDP are of course farcical, and entirely slanderous.

But you seem to think its perfectly fine for you to take offence at percieved slander against you, and then dismiss my right to do the same.

Convenient.

Do you mind if I get to decide what slander I take offence too?

[ 07 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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jrootham
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posted 07 November 2008 02:44 PM      Profile for jrootham     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As long as I get to use that as evidence about how thick your skin is.
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Fidel
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posted 07 November 2008 03:15 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Caissa:
En Masse and Bread and Roses don't have the long thread problem.

I think the capability of software for those forums is the difference. There are different coding techniques to allow for appending post after post int static arrays, vector arrays, linked lists, etc which then governs how those posts are accessed in storage, accessed and copied into server's memory, transformed into HTML code and shipped out to our browsers for dislaying. There are performance issues and costs for each method, and I'm not sure I prefer the extra mouse clicks to get to the last page of a humungous thread, and skimmimg past relevant comments, and then posting whatever it is I may wrongly believe is a new idea and contribution. I can just imagine babblers telling me, "Hey you just said what soandso said nine months ago in this same thread 25 pages ago, you idiot!!" And then I'd feel silly.


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Cueball
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posted 07 November 2008 03:15 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

[ 07 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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Cueball
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posted 07 November 2008 03:16 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jrootham:
As long as I get to use that as evidence about how thick your skin is.

Certainly. I am impressed that you only lost your cool after one person questioned your support of human rights.

[ 07 November 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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oldgoat
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posted 08 November 2008 01:06 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh for Christ sake would you guys cut it out.
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