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Topic: Some help about the status card would be appreciated
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Michelle
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posted 03 August 2008 10:01 AM
If I'm not mistaken, you do not charge any tax at all when someone shows you their status card. No GST, no PST. There are rules about where the good or service is consumed (if off reserve, then it's taxable, if on reserve, it is not taxable). For basic goods like books and stuff, you can't charge tax if you're shown a status card, and I certainly would never question someone on where they're going to use the product - if they're showing you their card, then they're already telling you what you need to know. Anyone with a status card almost certainly knows the rules, and if they're showing you their card, the only interpretation for you questioning where they're using the product is that you suspect they're lying or misrepresenting themselves. The only time it might be relevant is if you're delivering the goods to a non-reserve address (irrelevant in your case since they're buying the books from you at the store) or if you're providing a service at a non-reserve address (also irrelevant since you're selling goods, not providing a service).Official info here. It applies to GST as well.
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Michelle
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posted 06 August 2008 11:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ottawa-Eeyou: both GST and PST are taken off only if the product is delived to the rez which really doesnt make a difference once you include the cost to transport it to the rez
Really? I thought I saw a provision on the Government of Canada site that makes an exception for status Indians who are transporting the goods to the reserve themselves (which I assume covers any off-rez shopping). Having worked retail at a bakery in Kingston, which is quite close to Tyendinaga, I would occasionally get status cards, and would honour them. I didn't remember having to write down any numbers either, but maybe I was supposed to and just didn't know it since I wasn't trained to do that. Of course, that was 15 years ago, too. quote: Exceptions are detailed under Taxable Purchases in this guide. If a Status Indian, Indian band or band council takes the purchases with them, vendors should note the Status Indian's federal "Certificate of Indian Status" card number, name, and Indian band or registry number, and a brief description of the goods or services sold, in their records.
Oh wait - that's just referring to the RST, right? But you're saying that in the case of the GST, the only time it's exempted is if the goods are actually being delivered to the reserve? That's a rather obnoxious and paternalistic rule, isn't it?? [ 06 August 2008: Message edited by: Michelle ]
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bigcitygal
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posted 07 August 2008 03:42 AM
quote: dw_ptbo: From what I understand, books are PST exempt if they are used on a reserve.
Books, in Ontario, are GST exempt for any person with a status card. Use of said purchases are unknown and irrelevant to the non-charging of GST. To the best of my knowledge, PST is not applied to books, since it was not charged on books for the 10 years I worked as a bookseller in Ontario. The store I worked for had two tax codes, one for GST only, one for both GST and PST. PST was charged to all non-book items such as magazines, t-shirts and other gift items. Hope this helps with your interest in aboriginal issues.
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SavageInTheCity
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posted 08 August 2008 06:04 PM
I live in Kitigan Zibi, QC.Some businesses in Maniwaki (the adjacent municipality), do not accept Status Cards. It is entirely up to the retailer. As I understand it, natives can claim those taxes on end-year tax returns. Ex - I've heard of people buying gas in the "city", and claiming it on year end returns. It can be a lengthy process, but you will get your money. I work in retail, off-reserve, and its a touchy issue. If the goods are not delivered, we have an obligation to charge the tax. It's the law.... Makes me comfortable, *sarcasm added* dealing with my neighbours sometimes. I don't want to charge them, but it's the law......but it's a 10000$ fine minimum, if you get caught.....that hurts a profit margin.ya think? As said above, it is many times cheaper to pay the tax than the delivery fee....so why not....it's simply another divide&conquer tactic in my book..... To answer the initial question - in quebec, it's entirely up to the retailer, as natives can claim on their income tax. Again, I've never had to go that route, but it can be done....not particularly great for customer relations ETA - Does my name ''SavageInTheCity'' mean anything more to anyone now? [ 08 August 2008: Message edited by: SavageInTheCity ]
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