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clockwork
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posted 06 September 2002 11:35 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
A study being published just days before the anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States suggests that the 9,000 grief counsellors who descended on New York after the World Trade Center buildings collapsed did very little to prevent post-traumatic stress disorders and other psychological problems.

Trauma counsellors bring nothing but grief, study says

Surprising, really. I think I clued into this after Columbine. Adults encouraging already hysterical teens struck me as a bit odd.


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skdadl
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posted 07 September 2002 05:18 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And here I thought this was going to be a thread about the philosophy of Charlie Brown, clock.

First frame: Charlie Brown is lying in bed, eyes wide open, and the thought-bubble over his head says, "Why are we here?"

Second frame: Charlie Brown is still staring; thought-bubble says, "Where are we going?"

Third frame: No thought-bubble, but Charlie Brown is still staring wide-eyed out of frame.

Fourth frame: Thought-bubble says, "It is not wise to lie in bed at night asking ourselves questions we cannot answer."


But back to the topic. I'm no expert, but I agree, clock: this was one of those articles you just knew had to come along sooner or later.

It seems to me pretty obvious, with grief as with any other kind of spiritual crisis (probably including depression, addiction, phobias, etc.), that people are too different for one-size-fits-all counselling. Especially in times of stress, some people will find strength in withdrawing, and it's just an extra burden to them to be told they're reacting in a mistaken way.

And with some, it does sort of feel sometimes that ego problems are being stoked by this kind of counselling. How did counselling get so standardized, anyway? People still haven't been.


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lagatta
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posted 07 September 2002 07:34 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree about the "grievance counsellor industry", however, post-traumatic stress syndrome does exist. It does not affect all people in the same way. I lived with a torture survivor who flipped out during his refugee status hearings. No way of knowing, but if he had accepted the help offered to him, perhaps he'd have been ok.

I have other friends who have gone through similar experiences. Some are generally fine (with the odd nightmare, of course) others are practically basket cases - a shame since all of these people are intelligent, useful, even heroic human beings.


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Terry Johnson
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posted 07 September 2002 10:21 PM      Profile for Terry Johnson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I've always thought of this era's armies of grief counsellors as servants of Big Brother. It's hard for the state to intervene in our private lives, especially in such private moments as grieving--unless, that is, it can convince us that we need state help to grieve appropriately.

On a related topic, Josie Appleton in Spiked-online laments the ritualisation of public grieving.


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lagatta
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posted 07 September 2002 11:03 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Perhaps some computer nerd could explain why so many articles appear in TINY print and it is impossible t make them larger with the "afficher" function - perhaps that is "display" in English? I have an iMac.
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