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Topic: Cervical cancer vaccine effective, says Merck
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Jimmy Brogan
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posted 07 October 2005 01:31 PM
Cervical cancer vaccine effective, says Merck quote: Cervical cancer is the second-most common cancer in women and their No. 2 cause of cancer deaths, resulting in about 3,000 deaths in the United States and nearly 300,000 around the world each year. At least half of sexually active men and women become infected with genital HPV at some point.The immune system clears most such infections in a year or two, but several types of HPV can persist, cause cervical cancer or trigger other cancers in the genital area. There is no cure for HPV, but the cancers can be treated and an improved Pap test is catching more cervical cancer before it has spread. Whitehouse Station-based Merck, hammered by slumping revenues and profits and facing roughly 5,000 lawsuits over its withdrawn painkiller Vioxx, is seeking to beat rival drug maker GlaxoSmithKline to market with the first cervical cancer vaccine.
From an article in the Ottawa Citizen: quote: Not everyone is enamoured with a campaign to immunize children. Conservatives groups like the Family Research Council in the United States fear that administering vaccinations to young people before they are sexually active would only encourage them to engage in sexual activity.
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From: The right choice - Iggy Thumbscrews for Liberal leader | Registered: Nov 2002
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skdadl
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posted 07 October 2005 03:40 PM
I hope that this comes along, but it is important to continue to stress:All sexually active women should be having Pap smears [as regularly as doctors are now advising] -- we used to say annually, and I still would say that, although maybe someone knows more about recent advice than I do. Cervical cancer, if caught early, is as close to a 100 per cent curable cancer as there is -- and it is easily treated, too. If allowed to develop, it is horribly lethal. In Canada, where annual tests are covered publicly across the country, NO woman should ever be dying of cervical cancer ... and yet some are. It is an indictment of the American health-care system that the rates of advanced cervical cancer are so high there. What can I say? Get that test. I knew someone who died in her early fifties of cervical cancer -- she hadn't had a Pap smear in ten years. It was crushing because so, so unnecessary. Go. The vaccine, if it works, may be helpful, but it doesn't sound like a silver bullet. It isn't working on all forms of the virus, and no one knows how long the protection lasts.
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pollyperverse
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posted 07 October 2005 07:11 PM
quote: skdadl, or anyone -- do you have any idea what a PAP test costs?
When I worked in Quebec we estimated that they cost around $53. Which is reasonable, I think, considering the cost of the tech to look at the microscope slide, the transport, and the doc's time. I think I remember reading that with the vaccine coming down the pike, and with new advances in pap tests and human papilloma virus DNA testing (each of which cost about $90, two years ago, from a private clinic in Quebec, FYI) there are beginning to be rumblings of a new standard of care where older women are encouraged to get pap tests less often. [Edit: added from here on down] I realize that the above paragraph may make the med system look horribly anti-woman. Actually, conventional pap tests are kind of bad at telling you if you have pre-cancerous lesions. Because there are a lot of false positives (more than 20%) and some false negatives (5-20%), there is a lot more pap testing going on than would be necessary if we had a really great test for cervical abnormalities. The frequency of testing is sort of a way to make the test be more accurate. As well, I believe most women get HPV young, most women clear it when they're young, and most women--if they've consistently had normal pap results--don't seem to start getting abnormal pap results after the age of 30. HOWEVER, HPV is a sexually transmitted disease, and there is always a chance you'll catch hold of it after 30. So establishing a pap testing pattern IS very important. Another edit: AND there are lots of different strains of HPV, so even if you get one and clear it, you might get another. And some strains seem to cause cancer more readily than others. [ 07 October 2005: Message edited by: pollyperverse ] [ 07 October 2005: Message edited by: pollyperverse ]
From: Halifax | Registered: Jan 2005
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iworm
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posted 11 October 2005 12:18 PM
quote: From Fern Hill:skdadl, or anyone -- do you have any idea what a PAP test costs?
"Cost of a pap smear is approximately $40" (US dollars) source
From: Constantly moving | Registered: Aug 2002
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skdadl
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posted 11 October 2005 12:31 PM
pollyperverse, I repeat: the friend I knew who died of cervical cancer was in her fifties. She had been regularly tested through her late twenties and thirties, into her forties. I agree with you that the frequency of testing looks like a way to increase accuracy -- ie, if people get a false negative one year, then a new test a year later is still going to catch the disease at a fairly innocent stage. Given that we are talking about lives here, and given that there is no better protection at the moment, I would say that the cost and effort are worth it -- wouldn't you? It astounds me that a disease like this -- that IS CURABLE -- is not a crusade for everyone. No woman should die of cervical cancer. That is as in NO WOMAN. About the costs of the test, I repeat also: in the U.S., a woman without insurance would be charged not only for the Pap smear but also for the visit to the doctor, which is why uninsured women in the U.S. do not have regular Pap smears.
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skdadl
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posted 11 October 2005 01:12 PM
Och, lagatta, I know, and thank you for recalling me to my human self. When I think I'm responding to the doctors and their cost-benefit analyses, I start sounding like a moralizing crusader, and that is so unhelpful. On and off over my younger years, I skipped years of annual visits, just because ... oh, why? Because it is hard to be medicalized. It is hard on the human spirit, or it was on mine, anyway, and I believe that it was on my friend's. She was actually the last person I would have suspected of feeling queasy about visits to a doctor, but there you go. We do need open clinics, easier, more informal access, and above all we need changed attitudes among medical professionals, who don't seem to grasp how many people they have driven away by their dehumanizing attitudes towards the patients they prod and poke. But even after I've said all that, I am still wanting to make the evangelical calls to all those young women who resist the regular check-ups. Please go. I am a six-year survivor of two gynecological cancers (not cervical), and the queasiest customer you could imagine. But once you're faced with the disease, you're faced with even more tests! Trust me! If you can avoid that with the easy, preventative test, take that opportunity! Och, the doctors. Once they get their grubby little cookie-tongs on to you, they never stop!
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