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Pierre Cyr
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posted 31 January 2006 07:28 AM      Profile for Pierre Cyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Anyone hear about the recount for his riding? He had what a 26 vote lead election time?

Be nice to see him lose... If only to bitchslap Harper a bit before he brings forth his entire fiscal agenda for his first budget as he says he plans to do. Talk about arrogant.


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Reality. Bites.
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posted 31 January 2006 08:20 AM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post
29. The elections Canada site lists the recount as "in progress." No information on how long it will take.

Either way, I don't envy Clement. He either loses or gets called "Landslide Annie"


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Krago
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posted 31 January 2006 09:38 AM      Profile for Krago     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Actually, Ernie Eves received the tag Landslide Ernie when he won Parry Sound by just six votes in 1981.
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pencil-skirt
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posted 31 January 2006 10:56 AM      Profile for pencil-skirt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Ick he is such a slimebag. He lost his Brampton riding in the McGuinty sweep of 2003. He lost the Conservative Leadership race. Then he lost the same Brampton riding at the federal level in 2004. He then told a reporter, "well the people have spoken. I guess after losing three times, I have heard the people and I'm done with politics."

What a liar. Instead he packs up and moves to cottage country!


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RookieActivist
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posted 31 January 2006 12:49 PM      Profile for RookieActivist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
He told a reporter that the Brampton West riding had a lot of "new constituents" who "didn't get a chance to get to know him." He meant immigrants.
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Krago
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posted 31 January 2006 04:27 PM      Profile for Krago     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
What do Tony Clement and Niki Ashton have in common? Look here.
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cdnviking
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posted 31 January 2006 05:06 PM      Profile for cdnviking        Edit/Delete Post
He was Minister of Health for Mike the Knife... kiss single tier healthcare GOODBYE!
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Boom Boom
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posted 31 January 2006 05:33 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Giving Clement an important cabinet post will sink the HMCS Harpoon quicker than anything.
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Rufus Polson
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posted 01 February 2006 02:02 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by RookieActivist:
He told a reporter that the Brampton West riding had a lot of "new constituents" who "didn't get a chance to get to know him."

Lucky for him. If everyone in the riding actually knew him, he would have been sunk for sure.


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adma
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posted 01 February 2006 11:27 PM      Profile for adma     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Well, it was heartbreaking...

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happy go leftie (Red Tory)
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posted 02 February 2006 12:51 AM      Profile for happy go leftie (Red Tory)        Edit/Delete Post
Good excuse for "Two-tier Tony", but he didn't know anyone in Parry Sound Muskoka either. The "famous" Conservatives never parachute people lie. People up there can't figure out how the hell he won this riding. They really liked Andy Mitchell, who did fantastic job for the area. I mean a really well liked rep.

Guess Tony the privatizer printed up lots of ballot ID cards and moved as many supporters north as he could find to vote for him (good use for Conservative buses). Was a huge deal about cheating in Harris elections. A York University professor produced incredible proof of cheating in 2nd Harris election, was on the news about it at the time, but suddenly the professor was silenced. I mean he was shut right up. Guess he learned the hard way how power-crazed Conservatives "shut their critics" right up.

But Tony Clement, John Baird, and Jim Flaherty sure would have known how to "win" their seats, regardless of what the voters might have wanted. It just seems unthinkable that anyone in Ontario would have voted for Clement again. Just not believable.

But Clement is not the only one in the Harper Party who want to PRIVATIZE the entire healthcare system. So far I haven't heard of a single Conservative who doesn't want to bust public healthcare.

Harper committed to fund "profitizers all over the country" on the public purse in his morning healthcare announcement during election, on CPAC. He said following the "rogue Kirby report" road map to privatization, logical way to go. Harper said "can still use your health card". But for how long? Jerk thinks he can do this, and heard complaints from some nurses this is already starting. Was on the news 2 nights ago. Harper Cons are doing it.

Why did the media not put this on any of the election newscasts to inform the public? Seems like Harper was not just the "unquestioned", only perfect candidate in this election, his extreme policies, phoney tax cuts, and running big deficits were never repeated during Prime time or any other time to inform voters. Something smells bad about this election, and what's worse now Harper says he is "going ahead with his mandate". WHAT mandate? He got 124 seats, nearly the lowest minority ever, at least that can remember. Maybe the lowest minority in history.

Harper says today he will "keep the power in the PMO", and not implement the Gomery findings, which means he can do a hell of a lot without ever informing parliament. And a guy like Harper will do plenty, as fast as he can in secret from the PMO, just as Harris did in the Premier's office, and there will be no news coverage, just like they "covered everything Mike Harris did", no news until "after he left office", and only on the 10:00 am radio announcements. We're in big trouble, and this bodes badly for next election, as Harper will get a majority, media will aim very hard to make it happen.

Remember, it is the PMO, and his princes in that office who enforce the Canada Health Act. Soon we'll have only a "1-teir health system", and that will be "all private". You won't see a difference right away. After a while of running the privatizers and the public care off the same public purse busts the treasuries of every province. Give it about 3 to 4 years, and it will be bye-bye public, hello American owned healthcare system. Then you will be paying for those who put this bugger Conservative Party in office.

Those liars who said "give Harper a minority" won't do any harm, were a pack of thieving manipulators.

Know this, the environics larger than normal post-election poll, next day after the election said that only 15% (41% of 36.5%) Conservative voters actually voted for Conservative agenda. What a disaster this election turned out to be. Worst result ever. 54% of those who voted for Conservatives voted for "change", which is ridiculous, since their number one concern was healthcare, and only 10% of all voters thought ethics was an issue, and only 3% picked crime/law and order?

so we got Harper because people didn't bother to find out what he was offering, or just said, "oh let's have a change today". This is really unsettling.


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Albireo
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posted 02 February 2006 01:27 AM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by happy go leftie (Red Tory):
Was a huge deal about cheating in Harris elections. A York University professor produced incredible proof of cheating in 2nd Harris election, was on the news about it at the time, but suddenly the professor was silenced. I mean he was shut right up. Guess he learned the hard way how power-crazed Conservatives "shut their critics" right up.
I have never heard of this "huge deal". Do you have a link or something?

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inkameep
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posted 02 February 2006 01:53 AM      Profile for inkameep     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by happy go leftie (Red Tory):
WHAT mandate? He got 124 seats, nearly the lowest minority ever, at least that can remember. Maybe the lowest minority in history.
The smallest minority in history was probably Trudeau's in 1972:

Oct. 30, 1972 (Turnout: 76.7%)

Liberal 109
Progressive Conservative 107
NDP 31
Social Credit 15
Other 2
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264

There was another minority in 1979, when Joe Clark's PCs got 22 more seats than the Liberals.

May 22, 1979 (Turnout: 75.7%)

Progressive Conservative 136
Liberal 114
NDP 26
Social Credit 6
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282


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inkameep
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posted 02 February 2006 01:59 AM      Profile for inkameep     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post

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inkameep
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Thrasymachus
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posted 02 February 2006 02:06 AM      Profile for Thrasymachus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
But Clement is not the only one in the Harper Party who want to PRIVATIZE the entire healthcare system. So far I haven't heard of a single Conservative who doesn't want to bust public healthcare.
But what about Keith Martin? What does he have to say about public healthcare?

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Albireo
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posted 02 February 2006 02:09 AM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Triple post! That can happen if you post and then go back and resubmit. You may want to Edit a couple of those posts to clear them out.

[ 02 February 2006: Message edited by: Albireo ]


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Albireo
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posted 03 February 2006 08:23 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
*bumpity bump*

Clement wins recount in Parry Sound-Muskoka.

So he's into parliament, and probably cabinet, too.


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Stockholm
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posted 03 February 2006 08:29 PM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This is not a bad thing. If he lost the NDP would be one seat further from the true balance of power.
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Albireo
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posted 03 February 2006 08:32 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
If that riding in Northern SK flipped from Liberal to CPC on recount, and if Milliken is re-elected as Speaker, the NDP would have the balance.
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the grey
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posted 03 February 2006 10:41 PM      Profile for the grey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Elections Canada has announced that Tony Clement won the recount. His lead decreased from 29 votes to a mere 28.
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posted 04 February 2006 12:03 AM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post

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posted 04 February 2006 02:04 AM      Profile for Wilf Day     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Krago:
What do Tony Clement and Niki Ashton have in common? Look here.

Interesting that the Greek Toronto community consider him Greek, when he is actually Greek Cypriot on his father's side, not Greek. And he preferred Tony Clement to Tony Panayi, so he adopted the name as well as the politics of his stepfather John Clement, PC Attorney General back in 1975. No, John Clement didn't adopt him, he adopted the Clement name.

In 1975 John Clement lost his seat to a Liberal by a scant 172 votes. A family tradition of close races?


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