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rasmus
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posted 05 March 2002 07:32 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was going to contribute something to the "essential reading" thread, but there is so much to include... so I thought instead that we could have a thread where we take turns putting up passages to read. Today, when writing about rationality, I remembered Charles Sanders Peirce's essay, "The Fixation of Belief". The first few paragraphs are precious.

quote:
Few persons care to study logic, because everybody conceives himself to be proficient enough in the art of reasoning already. But I observe that this satisfaction is limited to one's own ratiocination, and does not extend to that of other men.

We come to the full possession of our power of drawing inferences, the last of all our faculties; for it is not so much a natural gift as a long and difficult art. The history of its practice would make a grand subject for a book. The medieval schoolman, following the Romans, made logic the earliest of a boy's studies after grammar, as being very easy. So it was as they understood it. Its fundamental principle, according to them, was, that all knowledge rests either on authority or reason; but that whatever is deduced by reason depends ultimately on a premiss derived from authority. Accordingly, as soon as a boy was perfect in the syllogistic procedure, his intellectual kit of tools was held to be complete.

To Roger Bacon, that remarkable mind who in the middle of the thirteenth century was almost a scientific man, the schoolmen's conception of reasoning appeared only an obstacle to truth. He saw that experience alone teaches anything -- a proposition which to us seems easy to understand, because a distinct conception of experience has been handed down to us from former generations; which to him likewise seemed perfectly clear, because its difficulties had not yet unfolded themselves. Of all kinds of experience, the best, he thought, was interior illumination, which teaches many things about Nature which the external senses could never discover, such as the transubstantiation of bread.


Peirce was a genius. Don't delve too deeply into his biography though.


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skdadl
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posted 06 March 2002 09:20 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Most trippy, rasmus.

Now I have to go and read the whole essay, because he's already got me in twists and I have to find out how to get untwisted. (But this is good for me ... I know it's good for me ...)


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Trespasser
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posted 13 March 2002 12:05 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Later that day...

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No scientist will admit that voting plays a role in his subject. Facts, logic, and methodology alone decide - this is what the fairy-tale tells us. But how do facts decide? What is their function in the advancement of knowledge? We cannot derive our theories from them. We cannot give a negative criterion by saying, for example, that good theories are theories which can be refuted, but which are not yet contradicted by any fact. A principle of falsification that removes theories because they do not fit the facts would have to remove the whole of science (or it would have to admit that large parts of science are irrefutable). The hint that a good theory explains more than its rivals is not very realistic either. True: new theories often predict new things - but almost always at the expense of things already known. Turning to logic we realise that even the simplest demands are not satisfied in scientific practice, and could not be satisfied, because of the complexity of the material. The ideas which scientists use to present the known and to advance into the unknown are only rarely in agreement with the strict injunctions of logic or pure mathematics and the attempt to make them conform would rob science of the elasticity without which progress cannot be achieved. We see: facts alone are not strong enough for making us accept, or reject, scientific theories, the range they leave to thought is too wide; logic and methodology eliminate too much, they are too narrow. In between these two extremes lies the ever-changing domain of human ideas and wishes. And a more detailed analysis of successful moves in the game of science ('successful' from the point of view of the scientists themselves) shows indeed that there is a wide range of freedom that demands a multiplicity of ideas and permits the application of democratic procedures (ballot-discussion-vote) but that is actually closed by power politics and propaganda. This is where the fairy-tale of a special method assumes its decisive function. It conceals the freedom of decision which creative scientists and the general public have even inside the most rigid and the most advanced parts of science by a recitation of 'objective' criteria and it thus protects the big-shots (Nobel Prize winners; heads of laboratories, of organisations such as the AMA, of special schools; 'educators'; etc.) from the masses (laymen; experts in non-scientific fields; experts in other fields of science): only those citizens count who were subjected to the pressures of scientific institutions (they have undergone a long process of education), who succumbed to these pressures (they have passed their examinations), and who are now firmly convinced of the truth of the fairy-tale. This is how scientists have deceived themselves and everyone else about their business, but without any real disadvantage: they have more money, more authority, more sex appeal than they deserve, and the most stupid procedures and the most laughable results in their domain are surrounded with an aura of excellence. It is time to cut them down in size, and to give them a more modest position in society.

Paul Feyerabend, Against Method, from the concluding chapter.

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MJ
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posted 13 March 2002 12:28 PM      Profile for MJ     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
"We may now return to a point made in the previous section: to my thesis that a subjective experience, or a feeling of conviction, can never justify a scientific statement, and that within science it can play no part but that of the subject of an empirical (a psychological) inquiry. No matter how intense a feeling of conviction it may be, it can never justify a statement. Thus I can be utterly convinced of the truth of a statement; certain of the evidence of my perceptions; overwhelmed by the intensity of my experience: every doubt may seem to be absurd. But does this afford the slightest reason for science to accept my statement? Can any statement be justified by the fact that K.R.P. is utterly convinced of the truth? The answer is, 'No'; and any other answer would be incompatible with the idea of scientific objectivity.

Even the fact, for me so firmly established, that I am experiencing this feeling of conviction, cannot appear within the field of objective science except in the form of a psychological hypothesis which, of course, calls for inter-subjective testing: form the conjecture that I have this feeling of conviction the psychologist may deduce, with the help of psychological and other theories, certain predictions about my behavior; and these may be confirmed or refuted in the course of experimental tests.

But from the epistemological point of view, it is quite irrelevant whether my feeling of conviction was strong or weak; whether it came from a strong or even merely from a doubtful surmise. None of this has any bearing on the question of how scientific statements can be justified."


- Karl Popper, The Logic of Scientific Discovery

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banquo
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posted 15 March 2002 12:07 PM      Profile for banquo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.msnbc.com/news/720655.asp?cp1=1

A former conservative hatchet man mea culpas about his life and work. Oh joy oh rapture.


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cosmiccommunist
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posted 25 April 2002 04:05 PM      Profile for cosmiccommunist   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Theodore Roszak on William Blake:

"Blake recognized there was another, darker politics unfolding beneath the surface of class conflict. He saw in the steady advance of science and its machines a terrifying aggression against precious human potentialities--and especially against the visionary imagination...Deprived of bread or the equal benefits of the commonwealth, the person shrivels. Obviously. And that is a clear line to fight on. But when the transcendent energies waste away, then too the person shrivels--though far less obviously. Their loss is suffered in privacy and bewildered silence; it is easily submerged in affluence, entertaining diversions, and adjustive therapy. Well fed and fashionably dressed, surrounded by every manner of mechanical convenience, and with our credit rating in good order, we may even be ashamed to feel we have any problem at all...The world cries out for revolution--for the revolution of bread, and social justice, and national liberation...But it needs the next revolution too, which is the struggle to liberate the visionary powers from the lesser reality in which they have been confined by urban-industrial necessity."

from Where the Wasteland Ends


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DrConway
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posted 25 April 2002 05:08 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
banquo, stow the self-righteousness and buy the book from Chapters and return it in a week if you can't get it from the library. It's damn good, and a really meaty in-depth look "behind the scenes" at the rampant psychotic nutcases who were running around doing everything they could to trash Bill Clinton's presidency, and in the process, shitting all over political decorum.
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'lance
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posted 25 April 2002 05:30 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually Doc, if this Slate piece is anything to go by, banquo's quite right to feel dubious about Brock's book.
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DrConway
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posted 25 April 2002 05:47 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
... and I suppose you two would crap all over Confessions of a Union Buster, just because it's a mea-culpa-this-is-what-I-did-and-it's-wrong book, even though it is an important insight into the viciousness with which union-busting is pursued in North America?
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'lance
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posted 25 April 2002 05:57 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know, maybe -- though, please note, neither of us did any crapping. It's Timothy Noah who found some of Brock's statements "dubious," although I have more reason to trust Noah's insights than Brock's.

But Brock's book is certainly no higher on my list than COAUB. I don't need either one to know that right-wing politics and union-busting, respectively, are conducted with extreme prejudice. The inside dope on these things -- where you can separate it from self-serving statements -- may be interesting, but is hardly essential.

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DrConway
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posted 25 April 2002 10:54 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Hardly essential" perhaps to us, the converted, 'lance, but there are hundreds of thousands of people who literally have no idea that this dreck goes on in our society, and these two books serve as one helluva wakeup call, in my not so very friggin' humble opinion.
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