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skdadl
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posted 25 June 2003 12:29 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Today George Orwell is 100.

Hands down, references to Orwell and two of his novels, Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-four, outnumber any other literary references on this board, as I believe is true of just about every other contemporary medium in North America, probably in Britain too.

He had a few warts, but he was a noble man, and his influence on the language, on clarity and honesty in language and thought, has been immense. May it increase.


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 25 June 2003 12:34 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll raise a tumbler of Victory Gin in his honour.

Sheesh, he died young!


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posted 25 June 2003 12:37 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Naturally, there's been a slew of new biographies. Here's a Terry Eagleton review of three of them, from the London Review of Books.
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posted 25 June 2003 12:41 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The Italian raised his head and said quickly: "Italiano?"

I answered in my bad Spanish: "No, Ingles. Y tu?"

"Italiano"

As we went out, he stepped across the room and gripped my hand very hard. Queer, the affection you can feel for a stranger! It was as though his spirit and mine had momentarily suceeded in bridging the gulf of language and tradition and meeting in utter intimacy.

I hoped he liked me as well as I liked him. But I also knew that to retain my first impression of him, I must not see him again; and needless to say, I never did see him again. One was always making contacts of that kind in Spain.


-- Homage To Catalonia


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posted 25 June 2003 12:42 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Happy Birthday Eric!!

He sure did die young, but what an influence he had. Certainly a keen observer of the human condition, and still as relevant as he ever was.

I may have a splash of Victory Gin myself.


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posted 25 June 2003 12:44 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Who is Eric?
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'lance
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posted 25 June 2003 12:46 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Eric Blair -- Orwell's real name.

He adopted the pen name before the publication of his first book, Road to Wigan Pier, I believe.

Edited to add:

I love the way Eagleton begins his review essay:

quote:
He was the son of a servant of the Crown from a well-heeled South of England background, who shone at prep school but proved something of an academic flop later on. A passionate left-wing polemicist, he nonetheless retained more than a few traces of his public-school breeding, including a plummy accent and a horde of posh friends. He combined cultural Englishness with political cosmopolitanism, and detested political personality cults while sedulously cultivating a public image of himself. From a vantage-point of relative security, he made the odd foray into the lives of the blighted and dispossessed, partly to keep his political nose to the ground and partly because such trips furnished him with precious journalistic copy. Coruscatingly intelligent though not in the strict sense an intellectual, he had the ornery, bloody-minded streak of the independent leftist and idiosyncratic Englishman, as adept at ruffling the feathers of his fellow socialists as at outraging the opposition. As he grew older, this cussedness became more pronounced, until his hatred of benighted autocratic states led him in the eyes of many to betray his left-wing views altogether.

Such, no doubt, is how Christopher Hitchens will be remembered. The resemblances to George Orwell, on whom Hitchens has written so admiringly,* are obvious enough, though so are some key differences. Orwell was a kind of literary proletarian who lived in dire straits for most of his life, and began to earn serious money from his writing only when he was approaching death. This is not the case with Hitchens, unless Vanity Fair is a lot meaner than one imagines.


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skdadl
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posted 25 June 2003 01:09 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Surprised laughter! (The best kind.)
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al-Qa'bong
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posted 25 June 2003 01:27 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like how Orwell once referred to himself as "lower upper middle class."
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posted 25 June 2003 01:41 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Who is Eric?

Eric the halibut, of course.


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posted 25 June 2003 02:07 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by paxamillion:

Eric the halibut, of course.


My apologies for the thread drift on this most auspicious subject, but do you remember "Eric the Half a Bee"?


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'lance
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posted 25 June 2003 02:15 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But of course.

quote:
Half a bee, philosophically, must, ipso facto, half not be.
But half the bee
has got to be,
vis a vis
its entity - do you see?

But can a bee
be said to be
or not to be
an entire bee
when half the bee
is not a bee
due to some ancient injury?

Singing...

La dee dee, 1 2 3,
Eric the half a bee.
A B C D E F G,
Eric the half a bee.

Is this wretched demi-bee,
half asleep upon my knee,
some freak from a menagerie?
No! It's Eric the half a bee.

Fiddle dee dum,
Fiddle dee dee,
Eric the half bee.

Ho ho ho,
Tee hee hee,
Eric the half a bee.

I love this hive employee-ee-ee [with buzzing in background]
bisected accidentally
one summer afternoon by me
I love him carnally.

He loves him carnally... [together]
...semi-carnally

[spoken]

The end

"Cyril Connelly?"
No! "Semi-carnally"
Oh!

Cyril Connelly [sung softly and slowly]


Which raises an interesting question. What would Orwell have made of Monty Python? Very English... well-educated, yet irreverent toward their (and every other) class... I fancy he'd have been a fan.


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posted 25 June 2003 02:30 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I rather think not, 'lance old boy. As much as I love his writing, I'm having a deuce of a time trying to remember any instances of outright mirth (albeit there is a sense of dry wit) in his work.

Please do correct me if my failing memory has missed any examples.


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posted 25 June 2003 02:30 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
he'd have been interested in what's going on in britain:

CNN Europe, June 25

quote:
"Privacy is being systematically engineered into extinction. Each day sees a new onslaught on this precious and delicate right," Simon Davies, director of Privacy International said.

"Within a short time anxious citizens will be reluctantly forced to take action through campaigns of civil disobedience, sabotage or subversion," he said.

In the UK, more than £300 million ($450 million) is spent each year on a surveillance industry involving an estimated 300,000 cameras covering shopping areas, housing estates, car parks and public facilities.

Under recent UK Home Office proposals, state officials will be able to monitor when you are online, who you e-mail and which Web sites you visit, as well as everything you hear and say on the telephone.

Last week, UK Transport Secretary Alistair Darling proposed every car should be fitted with a Global Positioning System (GPS), which can pinpoint -- using triangulation -- the position of a car within five or 10 meters.

Mobile phone companies are already able to track users -- more than 80 percent of the UK population -- to within a few feet in urban areas when they make a phone call or text.

Last month, UK Home Secretary David Blunkett proposed a controversial ID card which will hold personal details as well as biometric information like electronic fingerprints.



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posted 25 June 2003 02:36 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You may be right, al-Q. Then again, he claimed to have enjoyed BBC cafeteria food, ca. 1943. This may suggest a lively sense of the absurd.

As for surveillance in Britain, it's appalling.

From the Sense of the Absurd department: the city government of Barcelona decided, within the last few years, to name a city square after Orwell. They also decided that it would make an ideal location for... yes, a surveillance-camera pilot project.

Edited to add:

Here's a link.

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posted 25 June 2003 02:39 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
the city government of Barcelona decided, within the last few years, to name a city square after Orwell.


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posted 25 June 2003 03:09 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Holy telescreen, Batman. Irony certainly thrives in Cataluña.

I suppose Orwell thought it a good laugh that the waiters and cooks in expensive Paris restaurants would spit in the food of obnoxious patrons.


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posted 25 June 2003 11:06 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't smoke Victory cigarettes, but here's a cup of ersatz Victory coffee sweetened with Victory sugar in a nod to one of the most well-known and well-admired writers out there.
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posted 26 June 2003 01:57 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Take the Orwell quiz!

9/12, me. Oh well.


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posted 26 June 2003 02:43 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
11/12
How the heck do I know how many copies of "Homage" sold!

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posted 26 June 2003 02:58 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's a bit of trivia I recalled only because Ideas last week ran a five-part series on Orwell -- partly a repackaged documentary made in, yes, 1984, written by George Woodcock, with Barry Morse reading the part of Orwell.
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posted 27 June 2003 12:47 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have to share how plastic.com titled their story on this just because it's funny.
"Doubleplusgood Writer Born Antecenturywise, Was No Unperson"

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posted 27 June 2003 12:53 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A rather hideous minglemanglinging of Orwell and Evelyn Waugh, if yaugh ask me.
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posted 27 June 2003 09:14 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I did really badly on that quiz because I've only ever read 1984 and that was a long time ago. But I certainly didn't deserve that nasty little comment about how I should use more of my brain next time!
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posted 27 June 2003 09:52 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like it, Doug.

Me 10/12, but I was doing a fair amount of guessing there, based on knowledge of things English and publishing.

I keep thinking how absurd it is for Hitchens to be not-so-subtly claiming Orwell's mantle for himself. Hitchens writes curlicues and rodomontades. I don't think Orwell ever did that.


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Don't worry Michelle, even if you get 12/12 on Guardian quizzes they berate you as a swot.

Yeah, Orwell was very much an advocate of Plain English, even a bit too much at times, a bit too 'manly'. Far from Hitchens.


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The Hitchens references remind me of how other Establishment journalists/spin-doctors have misused Orwell. I guess it is the ultimate Orwellianism when corporate media spindoctors use the name of Orwell to attack those who try to speak Truth to Power.

Probably the most recent examples of this were pre-war articles praising Orwell (and attacking the anti-war Left) by Globe and Mail columnists Margaret Wente and Rex Murphy. Every atrocity or lie ever committed (or funded) by Bush I, Bush II, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Cheney were down the Orwellian memory holes of these, our country's leading journalists.


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