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terra1st
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posted 19 December 2003 01:04 PM
hey... there's a really good article (written from an anarchist perspective) on palestine solidarity work and white priviledge here http://www.onwardnewspaper.org/archives/2-2002/solomon.html What I'm asking is kind of a tangent from the article, but this article made me think on that level so here it is: Is the amazing rise in palestine solidarity work due to the fact that it's easier to point out (and confront) injustice, genocide, and the continuing effects of imperialism "over there" than here at home? Is our whiteness what keeps us working so hard at anti-imperialism in the middle east, and not the continued de-facto apartied here? I tend to think so... (apartied is mostly defined by personal liberty and access to resources, first nations folk have little - if any - of either) let me know what you think of my questions, and the article in general.
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Rebecca West
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posted 19 December 2003 03:27 PM
I don't mind being referred to as one of the goyim, but what really pisses me off are the number of assumptions the writer of the article makes about "whiteness", "class" and "WASP" privilege. She talks about solidarity, and then proceeds to take a crap all over those whose politics aren't radical enough for her, or those she perceives as having too much money or perceived social position to be radical enough. Or just those she perceives as exploiting the Palestinian issue to boost their own activist cred.Fuck off with the identity politics, eh? The arrogance and condescension in this woman's article are precisely the antithesis of solidarity. Solidarity isn't about approval or getting an exact match for your own personal politics. Solidarity is about coming together under the banner of a common cause, despite each others real or perceived shortcomings and differences, because many voices accomplish more than a few. This woman's approval, I do not need.
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skdadl
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posted 19 December 2003 03:45 PM
It's an interesting article, terra1st, and it covers a lot of territory. Thanks for the link.Once I got over a little initial irritation at some of Solomon's rhetoric, I found myself nodding, point by point. She, of course, is writing from New York and her experience of activism there, which I suspect is both more subtly differentiated and, sometimes, more dangerous than what we know here. Still, you're right, and she is right, to question any activist who goes full steam ahead on any kind of liberation issue without first listening to and learning from the people whose liberation is in question. And for sure we are not immune to that kind of problem in Canada.
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terra1st
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posted 19 December 2003 03:58 PM
with all due respect RW, that article was from an anarchist paper (written by an anarchist, for anarchists)...I posted it here for the conversation about (ideally) whiteness and solidarity work with people here and in the middle east. I think that the priviledge that white (especially radical) activists have makes it easier to identify the colonialism and racism in the middle east as opposed to here... If we put so much work into solidarity with first nations people, we'd have to examine our priviledge, and think about our role in perpetuating colonialism (apartied, racism, etc) here. from there I thought someone may have had a neat insight into the (un)workings of this... So the writing style of the article is not that pertinent, she was writing to an audience that would appreciate it, and get it. she may not have been intending that the average soccer mom would read her article (if she did, I doubt that she would have used that many references to the black block... ) oh, well... worth a shot. [ 19 December 2003: Message edited by: terra1st ]
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4t2
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posted 19 December 2003 04:42 PM
Interesting article. However she does use the word praxis*, which is a well-known code word for "it's not really politics, it's an awfully clever sociological experiment". ;-) ;-)Nice that she referred to Bell Hooks (or bell hooks), though - a very good writer and, in my opinion, fairly clear and straightforward...most of the time. On the central point - well, it's hardly a new one, is it? It's always easy to play at being Che rather than look closer to home - although of course it's not an acceptable alternative to only look** at local struggles. Generally I think the more over-the-top the identification..the wrapping of oneself in the flag (or, in the case of an American girl I once met, wearing green-white-and-orange braces as recogniation of the "Irish struggle"...eeugh), the less thought that has gone into the history and theory of the issue. On the actual Palestinian issue, it's always worth noting that the UN has only seen fit to recognise one Permanent Observer Mission*** of displaced/stateless/oppressed peoples, and that's what was the PLO at the time. Although I agree that having that voice in New York is very important, I don't accept that there are two types of struggles in the world: the Palestinian cause, and "everyone else". But that's, I suppose, a result of the strong support of some other UN member states for that cause. * see also "paradigm" and, my favourite, "epistimological", as dead giveaways! ** eek, split infinitive, but won't work the other way - though there are things that are worst than it - this is something up with which I will not put....) *** the other POMs are the groups like the EU, la Francophonie, and the African Union, which are associations of other states, groups like the Red Cross and Inter-Parliamentary Union, and the Vatican (and their status is a good argument for another day...). Switzerland used to have a mission before they joined. But there are no other inchoate or potential states on the list.
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terra1st
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posted 19 December 2003 05:05 PM
I agree with you fully on your first and last points, lagatta, though I think it is crutial to understand and reflect on what some call "priviledge"...RW, I know what you mean when you say that the author takes shots at others, however I'd suggest that if anything the author is taking shots at people who mis-appropriate cultural symbols while trying to be "more radical"... I didn't perceive the author to argue for being more or less radical, just realizing what was appropriate or inappropriate when partaking in an action... Maybe I should re-read it. and as for the hooks quote, you're quite right that it wasn't needed to make the point... My guess is that the author included it 'cause if you or I say something, some leftists might shrug it off; If we quote chomsky or hooks, they will take it seriously. it is sad but all too common in the left. PS... I'll gladly keep posting here. glad some of you liked the content of the article, if not the writing style.
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