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Mr. Magoo
guilty-pleasure
Babbler # 3469
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posted 04 May 2004 03:01 PM
2.59 Which seems high to me. No driving, almost no heating (we've used nothing but a small 1500W space heater all winter) no dishwasher, no gas powered toys, no nothin'. Maybe I'm being burned for not turning my hot water heater down to 55.
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skdadl
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Babbler # 478
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posted 04 May 2004 06:50 PM
I had to quit part way through too -- on the little chart that asked about driving (being driven), taxis, and walking, if I tried to fill in more than one, it kept changing the numbers I'd filled in for t'others, or something like that. And then the whole thing froze. I had a feeling that some of those questions were skewed against people who live alone. I'm sure it is true: we are environmentally inefficient. Well -- I'm smiling now, but some Green politics already kind of bother me, and imagine what might happen to them in the hands of Ottawa (or other) civil servants if such servants ever decided to administer them severely. Michelle! Get that compost quota UP!! Break more eggs, girl! lagatta, we realize that you're walking to work, but changing rooms is not walking ENOUGH!!! And so on. Plus, are we not hearing that all these new-fangled energy-efficient homes are so hermetically sealed that they are contributing to the rising problem of allergies? We have to have a word with the servants.
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bonjourananas
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Babbler # 5603
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posted 04 May 2004 06:54 PM
i'm embarrassed by the amount that i apparently use. i'm surprised by it since i don't own a car, walk to work, make an effort to recycle (although i could do more and compost - but my building doesn't have much for us in the way of composting), and have no major appliances other than the fridge and stovethere were a few things i didn't know off the top of my head and i was filling it out in a hurry before work (before my coffee). what do you do to keep yours so low?
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Timebandit
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Babbler # 1448
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posted 05 May 2004 12:40 AM
4.43 -- Detached house that is pre-1946, largely, and more than 60% was heating. I don't drive to work, but I do own a mini-van. We compost everything we can, and recycle.Thing about the house, though, is there isn't anywhere to mitigate an old house that has been insulated and had the windows redone, sealed and insulated. In an energy assessment we had done, we were told we could cut the cost of heating this old place nearly in half, and we've done a lot of improvement to that end. Edited to add: Oh, duh, I'm a little slow... Just did the reductions part, which brought us down to 2.68. Vastly low for Saskatchewan. I feel better now. [ 05 May 2004: Message edited by: Zoot Capri ]
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Ubu
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posted 13 May 2004 05:31 PM
Where is vegetarianism on the survey ? Much less land is used to support a vegetarian diet, thereby permitting more natural uptake... not to mention that CH4, a much stronger greenhouse gas than CO2, is emitted just once (by us), instead of twice (by the cow/pig/chicken etc. and by us). Believe it or not, CH4 emissions by ruminants are of significance. I'm a vegetarian, living 4km from work and owning a lightly-used, new, compact ultra-efficient Japanese car, yet, somehow or other, I scored a 4.31. It must be my home (and my admission that I don't like turning down the heat. Brrr...)
From: position is relative | Registered: Oct 2003
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Mr. Magoo
guilty-pleasure
Babbler # 3469
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posted 13 May 2004 06:02 PM
Pardon the quibble, but if a cow digests some cellulose or carbohydrate and makes a little methane, it's in the process of becoming the protein I crave, and when I eat it I won't be converting it to methane. In other words, it only happens once.Also, of cow/pig/chicken, only the cow is a ruminant.
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Ubu
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 4514
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posted 17 May 2004 01:50 PM
Clearly, I was aware of your second point (poor editing). On your first point (it still only happens once), this is correct, but we can't break down the cellulose the way a cow can. If we eat it, the cellulose is released as cellulose in our feces! Eventually, this fibre will break down too (which is similar to your point), releasing the carbon, either as CO2 or CH4, depending on whether our shit ends up in an oxic or anoxic environment. Unfortunately, when the cow breaks it down, it releases methane almost exclusively (methane is 21x as strong on a per molecule basis as a greenhouse gas than CO2) because the breakdown occurs in an anoxic environment. In addition, about 7 times as much land is used to produce our nutrition if we choose to go the cow route for our food (I forget where I read this), so I would argue that far more methane is being released. My final point is less scientific. Are you saying that a vegetarian farts more ? I think I have had a reduction in flatulence since becoming a vegetarian.
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