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Slick Willy
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posted 29 August 2002 10:29 AM      Profile for Slick Willy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To continue:

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It's not supposed to be about profit. It's about reducing harm to individuals and society at large. We don't ask, "Where's the profit?" for schools, police, paramedics, firefighters or suicide hotlines.

I think we do ask that there is a profit in all those things but like business profit is not always measured in dollars. Not on the face of it anyway.

For example, a Firefighter stops a fire from destroying a home, which means that it will cost less to rebuild the home, which means that insurance companies pay out less in claims.

Which means premiums for fire insurance can be lower and we can afford the cost of the firefighter.

Further we get the information that the firefighter gains through inspection and investigation that helps us to live in a safer environment and reduce the amount of lives lost due to fire.

So, in a round about way we do profit from all those things in the same manner up to a limit.

But with legalizing heroin we are assuming some of the responsibility for the damages iv drug use does to a person. What happens in the case of a pregnant woman addicted to heroin? In distributing and helping to maintain her heroin useage, are we negligent when it comes to adverse effects on the baby?

How do we contend with the problem of escalated useage? And as well just how liable are we should someone die while shooting our heroin?


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Briguy
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posted 29 August 2002 11:01 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why do you keep presenting these examples that we already have answers to? Pregnant women are advised by their doctors not to smoke or drink, to avoid damaging the foetus. The same doctors aren't going to suggest shooting heroin just because the user has an addiction. In the end, the woman will choose whether to endanger her baby, just like with alcohol and tobacco (and just like happens now under prohibition).
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Slick Willy
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posted 29 August 2002 11:41 AM      Profile for Slick Willy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Why do you keep presenting these examples that we already have answers to?

This hasn't been answered at all afaik.
But then that's a common occurance around here isn't it?

Are you saying that pregnant women will be turned away from heroin despensories or that they will be told it may harm the baby and that they shouldn't do it, then if they choose, admitted and given the drug regardless of the possible harm to the baby?


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audra trower williams
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posted 29 August 2002 11:54 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Moving this to "ideas, etc ..."
From: And I'm a look you in the eye for every bar of the chorus | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged

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