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clersal
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posted 20 August 2003 08:48 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yep
With permission.

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nonsuch
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posted 20 August 2003 11:38 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

(...of course, you realize this is sexist?)

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clersal
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posted 21 August 2003 12:23 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nah, just honest.
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Bubbles
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posted 21 August 2003 01:23 AM      Profile for Bubbles        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, that is a problem, gender discrimination. Maybe we should take a hint, and do away with men and women and call them all whatmen. And avoid the next constitutional challange.
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nonsuch
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posted 21 August 2003 02:54 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
... and,
never fall in love a-gain...

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clersal
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posted 21 August 2003 03:46 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll Never Fall In Love Again
What do you get when you fall in love?
A (girl) with a pin to burst your bubble (or man)
That's what you get for all your trouble
I'll never fall in love again

I'll never fall in love again

What do you get when you kiss a girl
You get enough germs to catch pneumonia
After you do, she'll never phone ya
I'll never fall in love again

I'll never fall in love again

Don't tell me what it's all about
'Cause I've been there and I'm glad I'm out
Out of those chains those chains that bind you
That is why I'm here to remind you

What do you get when you fall in love?
You only get lies and pain and sorrow
So far at least until tomorrow
I'll never fall in love again

I'll never fall in love again


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'lance
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posted 21 August 2003 04:01 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wasn't it kind of bizarre that Sinatra dueted on that song with... his daughter?
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clersal
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posted 21 August 2003 05:39 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah yes, but did he know it was his daughter?
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'lance
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posted 21 August 2003 05:44 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm sure I speak both for the entire nation and for the one neighbouring us when I say... eeesh!
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kuba walda
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posted 21 August 2003 05:44 PM      Profile for kuba walda        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
What do you get when you kiss a girl
You get enough germs to catch pneumonia

Is that based on some antiquated palyground notion that girls have germs? Well boys do to.


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Sisyphus
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posted 21 August 2003 06:10 PM      Profile for Sisyphus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, but girls have cooties !
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clersal
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posted 21 August 2003 06:19 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I'm sure I speak both for the entire nation and for the one neighbouring us when I say... eeesh!

Or perhaps he thought it was his sister? Mother? Cousin?

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Michelle
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posted 21 August 2003 06:52 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Boy germs! Boy germs!
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Piao
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posted 21 August 2003 09:12 PM      Profile for Piao     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like that cartoon, it says to me:

Men are worthless and stupid.

That's great stuff.

I know a lot of women. It makes me wonder, why would a woman fall in love with another woman? Almost as strange as, why would a man ever fall in love with a woman?

HO HO HO, HA HA HA, HEE HEE HEE. Ya, whatever. It's just so lame.


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clersal
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posted 21 August 2003 11:49 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I like that cartoon, it says to me:
Men are worthless and stupid.



I really don't understand how you see that.
Check out Aislin's stuff. It's all there.

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Sisyphus
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posted 22 August 2003 10:31 AM      Profile for Sisyphus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I like that cartoon, it says to me:
Men are worthless and stupid.

That's great stuff.


Yes, like all humans, we frequently are. I often wonder what women (or other men, for that matter) see in us.

Sometimes humour requires that we drop our sensitivity to the inner light within each human miracle that makes us unique and special and see the hairy butt-crack slyly peeking out from inside the jeans as we show, screwdriver in hand, the fair maiden we're trying to woo our heroic ability to feign knowledge of mechanical contraptions we understand less clearly than she.


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Pogo
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posted 22 August 2003 10:40 AM      Profile for Pogo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
hairy butt-crack slyly peeking out

slyly peeking, now that's funny.


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Piao
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posted 22 August 2003 02:01 PM      Profile for Piao     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's interesting, and something that I bet few older babblers would be able or maybe willing to believe, but there is actually a generation now that has grown up entirely in the 'men are the enemy' socio-political climate.

Now, please understand, I have a sense of humour, and understand the joke in the comic. I also understand the double standard that, as someone pointed out, if it were about women it would be considered sexist. It is about men, so it is "true". That's why I said it's just lame.

Yes, I know women lived through a lot of double standards. It was wrong, they have done well to fight and continue to fight them. I am fully in support of this. I fully support equality in all things. Admittedly, this was mostly before my time, what I know I have been taught by my education, the media, and a vanguard mother.

Back to my point. Believe it or not, I have never known anything but the idea that men are bad, and women are good. From childhood I have been raised in this environment and tried to live up to its standards. It seems that no matter how hard you try, you are not allowed to live up to these standards, because it is easier and gives a feeling of power to be able to demonize.

As I said, I realize for a lot of people here, this all seems like just desserts and a sign of progress. Just wanted to point out that times have changed, and until there is equality, there are men out there who are all too sympathetic to your feelings of frustration and confusion. Cause this sucks.


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clersal
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posted 22 August 2003 02:42 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Now, please understand, I have a sense of humour, and understand the joke in the comic.

First of all it is in the Montréal Gazette.
Perhaps you haven't noticed, but for the last few weeks the papers have talked about same sex marriages. Is it right? Is it normal? is it....?
Maybe marriage is a crock whoever is involved.

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Sisyphus
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posted 22 August 2003 02:48 PM      Profile for Sisyphus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The reason I hate "political correctness" is that it seems to have swallowed everybody's sense of humour. I don't want to get into a detailed discussion of ethnic and sexual power-relations and humour-as-oppression in this thread, but I would like to see a move to where we can all laugh at ourselves and each other, rather than a place (which seems to be the current direction) where we're no longer allowed to find laughter in the foibles of the various sub-cultures of humanity. I take it as axiomatic that there is someone somewhere who will be mortally insulted by any observation, quip, comment or opinion that can possibly be expressed.

I'm not suggesting that anyone on Babble fits the following description, but I just want to say that humourless holier-than-thou prigishness is not a virtue. Where to draw the line, who is allowed to make fun of whom etc., etc., are all valid questions in the context of this post and need to be adressed before my humour-filled Utopia can exist.

Final note: Andrew Dice Clay, for example, is not unfunny because he is offensive; it's just that he's...not funny.

[ 22 August 2003: Message edited by: Sisyphus ]


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clersal
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posted 22 August 2003 02:53 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How true.
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Piao
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posted 22 August 2003 04:41 PM      Profile for Piao     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Believe it or not, I also totally agree.

The only reason I spoke out here was that I have seen people on these boards attacked quite viciously for making a joke that others decided to take offense by. I guess by trying to point this out I ended up sounding like the very people I was criticizing. Way to go Piao.

The comic really wasn't good enough to offend. It wasn't even insightful, I mean this was Family Circus depth of cleverness, c'mon. It just wasn't funny. Now that Andrew Dice Clay, whoo that guy had some jokes...

Clersal said:

quote:
First of all it is in the Montréal Gazette.

Yes, the COMIC was in the Montreal Gazette, and the joke was in the comic. Probably just not the term you use in Montreal.


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clersal
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posted 22 August 2003 05:06 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We call it a cartoon.
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Piao
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posted 22 August 2003 05:39 PM      Profile for Piao     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You're forgiven.
Our papers have a comics section, no cartoon section. Cartoons are on TV on Saturday mornings.

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DrConway
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posted 22 August 2003 05:44 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Sisyphus:
Final note: Andrew Dice Clay, for example, is not unfunny because he is offensive; it's just that he's...not funny.

We have an inside joke in the IRC channel I inhabit. There's a person who is often joshed by the regulars as being "negative funny".

Well, I would submit that Andrew Dice Clay is... negative funny.


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