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Topic: a snowman is so yesterday for winter wonerment
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CourtneyGQuinn
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posted 04 August 2005 02:23 PM
methinks Canada should sculpt and build cool ice structures during the colder monthsusing reuseable plastic foundation/forms...why not fill them with water to construct novel and neat winter artwork?.... Canadian Tire or Zellers should sell water injection moulds that turn to ice....these iceworks should have the option of adding biodegradeable ink/dye or lights to illuminate/excentuate ice sculpters for those who are more creative....why not display a self created ice artistic monument on your front yard rather then a boring snowman?...kind of like a totem pole or sand castle done with ice/ink and i've recently been thinking about a different idea....i'd love to see an artistic competition comparing water/wind, ink/ice towers....through the use of three things 1)water (temp controlled), 2)wind (monitored) 3)water drip motion.....it would be interesting who can construct/create the coolest ice formations.....kind of like what you see in caves except upside down.... depending upon temperature and wind...who (what province, city, park...) can create the best artistic display.....using nothing more then the slow drip of water in winter...it might be cool to see what we can construct and create
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 04 August 2005 03:18 PM
quote: Canadian Tire or Zellers should sell water injection moulds that turn to ice
I guess they'd have to make them out of water then, because water is the only thing in the universe that turns to ice. Unless you meant "molds that can be filled with water which will subsequently turn to ice"? In which case you'd best work on a new space-age supermaterial to build these molds. The expansion of water as it freezes has, in the past, been used to quarry stone. Expanding water can break just about any solid that tries to restrict it. Keep going though Courtney. You may yet come up with an idea that can't be debunked in under 60 seconds by anyone with a highschool science education and at least two brain cells to rub together. How about edible stop signs? Or maybe underwater rocks that glow in the dark and light the way for spaceships or something?
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 04 August 2005 04:21 PM
Uh, freezing water simply doesn't work that way. Water isn't beads.You know, these little factoids can be found with a little reading. That's what real inventors and entrepreneurs do when they have an idea. They do some research and find out if their idea can work. They don't just visit a message board and fart out every idea that crosses their little mind in the longshot hope that one of them might actually obey the laws of physics. Courtney seems to believe that he/she is "an idea person" and shouldn't be sullied by such pedestrian tasks as research. The worst part is — as I noted — that each and every one of Courtney's "ideas" can be debunked in less than 60 seconds, using some pretty basic knowledge. It's not like he/she is onto something. It's just intellectual laziness. Easier to say nonsense and let someone else set you straight than to actually stop, think about it, look it up, and if it doesn't work, don't say it.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 04 August 2005 04:31 PM
Those are ice sculpture, carved from a block of prefrozen ice.To try and make that schooner by building a mold and filling it with liquid water, then freezing that, would result in a broken mold.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 04 August 2005 04:55 PM
True. So long as the mold is exceptionally simple.Try filling a wine bottle with water and put it outside in the winter. Even though you've left the top open for the water to escape, it will still break the bottle at the shoulder. The problem is that by the time the water is expanding, it's not all liquid and cannot necessarily escape. In the case of an ice cube tray, there's no constriction. The cubes, if you notice, are inevitably wider at the top than the bottom for exactly this reason. So if you want some molds to make giant ice cubes on your lawn, no problem. Molds shaped like cones, cubes and cylinders could also be accomodated. Swans, ships, people, or just about anything that's not boring would, like the wine bottle, break. Am I the only person here who attended school? Or who ever forgot a few beers in the freezer?
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skdadl
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posted 04 August 2005 05:01 PM
Mr Magoo, the meanie, said: quote: Keep going though Courtney. You may yet come up with an idea that can't be debunked in under 60 seconds by anyone with a highschool science education and at least two brain cells to rub together. How about edible stop signs? Or maybe underwater rocks that glow in the dark and light the way for spaceships or something?
See, Courtney, I think that that is mean, even if sometimes it might be true. That's why I said you remind me of my husband. He kept having all these great inventor-type ideas too. Motorized roller-skates was one; he remained enthusiastic even after I raised a few questions about relative momentum and stopping. So I say keep going too, but I mean it sincerely, Courtney.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 04 August 2005 05:05 PM
How about you send your ideas directly to Skdadl through PM then Courtney?Skdadl, if I went to any forum here at babble and began spouting nonsense like "Israel only became Israel in 1841" or "Marx didn't invent Communism, Foucault did", someone would eventually ask me to please start doing a wee bit of research before wasting everyone's time posting nonsense. After a few times, they might start to remind me that babble doesn't exist solely to be a mirror for me to view my ideas through, nor an editor for when I'm feeling too lazy to do my own research. After a few dozen times, me apparently not getting it, someone would almost certainly become a "meanie" toward me. Maybe even you. I don't think presenting adult ideas here is too much to ask. Do you?
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 04 August 2005 05:14 PM
I'm not mad at anyone. I'm just tired of Courtney's foolish ideas, or more to the point, Courtney's insistence on "vetting" them here before doing the slightest bit of research to find out if they even make sense. The first time it was naivete. The tenth time it was just disrespect, IMHO.As for yesterday, I spent it wrapping crying pipes in my new basement and smashing out a crumbly faux ceiling. In other words, doing real work. ed'd to add: hey! What meta-comment? [ 04 August 2005: Message edited by: Mr. Magoo ]
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 04 August 2005 05:50 PM
quote: Speculating wildly (no precedent there), what if the moulds were engineered to expand, yet with enough resistance to allow the form to set?
If you could ensure that the ice would expand uniformly it could work. If not, you could have a statue with a huge head, or a swan with a big ass. Of course all water expands at the same rate when freezing, but the larger volumes in the mold would freeze solid last, and the smaller volumes first. That's why a bottle of water, even open, will break. The water in the neck freezes first and prevents any expansion by the water in the core of the main section of the bottle, which is the last to freeze solid.
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deBeauxOs
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posted 08 August 2005 12:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:
If you could ensure that the ice would expand uniformly it could work. If not, you could have a statue with a huge head, or a swan with a big ass.
Well, swans do indeed have big ol' bustling asses. Kinda cute, actually. BTW, is a wonerment a mash-up of wonderment and ornament???? [ 08 August 2005: Message edited by: deBeauxOs ]
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