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BLAKE 3:16
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posted 07 October 2002 07:25 PM      Profile for BLAKE 3:16     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Are there babblers interested in the thought of Walter Benjamin?

His mammoth work The Arcades Project has been made available in English at a reasonable price. What do people think of it? Is is systematic as Susan Buck Morss contends, or anti-systemic?

In Benjamin's nineth thesis of hisTheses on the Philosophy of History there is an image of the Angel watching the mounting wreckage and disaster called Progress. This is one of Benjamin's most celebrated and most beautiful image-ideas. Has it been abused? I can see many people with radical ideas identifying with the angel, while sitting back in terror and without acting. Certainly members of the Franfurt School relished or perhaps aestheticized hopelessness. I think Benjamin was up to more than this. In his essay on Kafka, he quotes Max Brod quoting Kafka, "There is an infinitie amount of hope, but not for us."


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'lance
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posted 07 October 2002 07:30 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Godsdammit, BLAKE, like I need to be reminded of the gaps in my education!

I've read only quotes and snippets from Benjamin, and have been meaning for years to actually sit down and read one of his actual books. I was especially intrigued by a review of The Arcades Project in Harper's (I think) a couple of years ago. Oh, for the life of a flaneur...

OK, I'll move him up in my list and get back to you.


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lagatta
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posted 07 October 2002 11:10 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.wbenjamin.org/walterbenjamin.html Another site on our friend Walter B. Like the quote on fascism, and how its chance was to present itself as "inevitable" and "progress". T.I.N.A.?

Haven't read all of the work you are referring to - is it the same as the Passagewerk? (sp?)


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posted 07 October 2002 11:52 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
(Yes, Passagen-Werk = The Arcades Project)

I have mixed feelings about Benjamin. The first Derrida article that I've ever read was the Force of Law: The "Mystical Foundation of Authority", in which he dismantles with much ingeniosity a very odd texte of Benjamin from the early 1920s titled Zur Kritik der Gewalt ('Critique of Violence'; 'critique' as 'evaluation, analysis' and not necessarily criticism, and 'violence' more like the force of law, foundational act of law). It is the (in)famous essay which earned Benjamin a congratulatory letter from Carl Schmitt himself, the essay in which he writes about the violence behind the establishment and maintainance of the law, about the alchemy through which force becomes legitimate, becomes a law; the essay in which Benjamin attacks pacifist and anti-death penalty arguments and meditates upon the coming of a possible new foundational violence (general strike and Sorel loom prominent).

On the other hand, there's Benjamin of the postmodernists, of literary studies and art history, of sociologists of modernity and of the city, of analysts of fascist estheticization of politics. There's Benjamin who died at the border between two countries, as that was the only way to escape reterritorialization.

And there's Benjamin the white crow of Frankfurt. Blake3:16 perfectly summed up in one sentence what was wrong with the Frankfurters: irredeemable gloom. Frankfurt was the hopelessness industry (apart from Marcuse, who was probably 'too involved in the world' for a decent Frankfurter). It was a monastery from which hermits looked down to the unruly Dasein-ness ( ) in trimphalist resignation. We told you so, things are only getting worse, succumb.... Adorno was a theologian to boot.


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BLAKE 3:16
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posted 08 October 2002 12:16 AM      Profile for BLAKE 3:16     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One of the most amazing images in Benjamin's work is the smashed clock, the alarm clock that rings 60 seconds of every minute, the state of emergency.

In certain senses I think Benjamin's power is his negativity, his nihilism. In Adorno, I think this is fetishized, but in Benjamin...

Yes, it is the Passagenwerke -- not translated into English before except in bits and chunks. The anglo-American Benjamin is seriously distorted due to the easily available translations, and the contexts in to which they were put.

What's its relationship to Andre Breton's Nadja? Or the work of Gail Scott?

NB - edits were spelling and punctuation.

[ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: BLAKE 3:16 ]


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I read stuff by Benjamin about Surrealist Paris, in French, probably excerpted from the Passagenwerk. And tried to read it in German, but my German is very poor. Blake, you know the great Viennese-Brazilian M. Löwy (shameless name-dropping) keeps sending me arcane stuff in German and Portugese, as well as languages I really do read ... I'll have to ask him for the babblers if "Walter Benjamin: Avertissement d'incendie. Une lecture des thèses "sur le concept d'histoire" has come out in English yet. I was mostly interested in material for art works.

It is strange how one acquires a certain familiarity with philosophical and marxist German, but I couldn't read instructions on how to install a boiler... liked the thing about Frankfurters, know two (one is one of those unlikely postwar German Jews) - very "involved in the world"...

Well, Nadja has the same type of wandering about the city, but in Breton's case, it was not a foreign city and there isn't the same degree of angst, but it would be very interesting to look at both works together. Although he is an intellectual, in some ways Benjamin seems more like Nadja herself than Breton, though I'd have to ponder this more. As for Gail Scott... brilliant writer but more than a bit snarky, anti-political. I think that is important for creators to find ways of remaining "involved in the world"...


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posted 08 October 2002 03:12 PM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
There is no document of civilization which is not at the same time a document of barbarism.
Always enjoyed what I consider the simple truth of that.

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posted 08 October 2002 10:50 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually, there are two Adornos, not just one. The Prophet of Doomsday is the Adorno of the Dialektik der Aufklärung, political (in)activism, musical theory, Adorno the bitter old academic who hated the student who flashed her breasts in his direction during the 60s' riots at German universities. *Our* Man Adorno, OTOH, is (I hear, I still haven't read that book) the Adorno of Negative Dialectic, where he was among the first to envision a philosophy of non-identity.

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You have to be poor to be a good flâneuse, I realized that. And if not homeless, than sort of nationless, in order to be able to claim spaces of any city you find yourself in. A special joy of flaneurs/ses are global cities.

But I should stop this flaneurie and go back to the centre of this city-thread, to Benjamin. I spend too much time hanging out in the passages anyway.

[Pssst, Gatta: forgive me my outrageous ignorance, but who is M. Lowy?

Which (the word Gatta) reminded me of one thing that Eugène Ionesco said in a TV interview: there are cities made for cats and cities made for dogs. He didn't like NYC 'cause he felt it was a city which only the busiest of dogs would enjoy. OTOH he claimed Paris is still a place that a few cats can enjoy too... Just a little barb, I thought.]


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posted 09 October 2002 08:52 PM      Profile for BLAKE 3:16     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To pick up on Trepspasser's comments..

There's a brilliant book by Caroline Knowles called Bedlam On The Streets, published by Routledge. While it doesn't reference Benjamin, it talks about Montreal and its homeless mentally ill -- it talks about lives in flight -- which I identified with as a homecare worker on public transit.

The flaneur/se...

Again to the Arcades:

"Against the armature of glass and iron, upholstery offers resistance with its textiles." [13,1]

"Plush - the material in which traces are left especially easily." [I5,2]

"If the crowd is a veil....

I lost the page when the phone rang.


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posted 15 October 2002 12:10 AM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been flipping through an old yellowish edition of Illuminations (the one with the boring-ish preface by Hannah Arendt) and you know what? The best essay in that collection is 'The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction'. It's still very alive and of interest.

"All efforts to render politics aesthetic culminate in one thing: war. War and war only can set a goal for mass movements on the largest scale while respecting the traditional property system.

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Mankind, which in Homer's time was an object of contemplation for the Olympian gods, now is one for itself. Its self-alienation has reached such a degree that it can experience its own destruction as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order."


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posted 15 October 2002 01:01 AM      Profile for BLAKE 3:16     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
'Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction' is a brilliant and strange essay. What elements of it are most interesting?
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His arguments about the end of the art as we know it. An art-piece is losing its uniqueness in the age of mechanical reproduction, and has to be something other than an exquisite and unique object of devotion.

Of course it has to be political, but there are varying ways for it to function in the public sphere.

Many things that Benjamin writes about in 'The Age' we now take for granted, and it's part of general knowledge.


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posted 15 October 2002 12:17 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been away from all this too long to comment usefully, but I thought I'd just check in and say that I've been reading along happily.

Blake, when you say there is now a reasonably priced edition, do you mean the one that's about eighty bucks? I'm not saying that's unreasonable for such a project -- just that that is the only edition I've seen.


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posted 18 October 2002 09:37 PM      Profile for BLAKE 3:16     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Arcades Project is available in soft cover for about $35 - the design is quite nice and there's perhaps something nice about the soft cover vis a vis the loss of aura, a mass production of a very weird and eclectic book. But it makes sense!

What I'm interested in regard to the loss of aura of the artwork is next question -- should be for is? Against this? Is a fait accomplis?

I don't recall anything by Benjamin regarding Marel Duchamp and his readymades. I wonder how we can relate the two, and what it means ethically outside the sphere of 'art'.

I do recommend the book -- it's trangressions and tangents are beautiful. It is full of all sorts of great illustrations, odd quotations, bits of hearsay, philosophy, revolutionary history. It's fun just to skip through.

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