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Agent 204
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posted 18 January 2005 09:09 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The Airbus A380 double-decker plane, with a 262-foot wingspan, a tail as tall as a seven-storey building, cost $13 billion US to develop. It can fly more than 15,000 kilometres without refueling.

The jet seats at least 555 passengers, 33 per cent more than Boeing's 747 and offers 49 percent more floor space. But can carry as many as 840 people, depending on the seat configuration.



Here.

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miles
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posted 18 January 2005 09:17 AM      Profile for miles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Since a lot of airlines are going bankrupt over the loss of passengers and the increased costs it would only make sense to order a number of these planes.

The best line in the cbc article I think is

quote:
So far, Air Canada has not ordered any of the planes

The good news is that this new plane might help out Pearson Airport in Toronto. According to the article the Emirates Airline has ordered 45 planes. And this reasoning about the planes coming to Toronto could be a good thing.

quote:
"There's a reason why Emirates might target Toronto – because of all the security problems in the U.S.," he said. "So Toronto could well become for Emirates a hub for people who want to travel from other parts of the world to Latin America."



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posted 18 January 2005 09:23 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm glad I don't have to fly the 550 passenger thingie. Smaller jets have a bit more comfort IMO - shorter distance to the washroom, steward/ess more likely to remember your face when getting refreshments, better air quality, no three or four or five person abreast seating; etc...

(I hate being the middle of seating arrangements on a long flight - I always try for an aisle seat so I can stretch at will). And much better privacy when it's only two abreast as in a smaller regional jet.


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posted 18 January 2005 05:23 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CBC just reported the new Airbus can carry a maximum of 800 passengers. Egad. 140 of these monsters have been ordered so far around the globe.
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posted 18 January 2005 05:30 PM      Profile for verbatim   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's worth mentioning that there is also a cargo version of this aircraft. However, I suspect that those airlines that are buying the 380 will convert much of their ageing 747 fleets into cargo ships.

One of the reasons that not every airline (like Air Canada, which has a large fleet of Airbuses) is buying 380's (other than the various preferential arrangements they have with each manufacturer) is that they require upgrade and construction at terminals -- that is, existing terminals can't handle the 380's double-decker configuration. So, along with buying the planes, the airline has to also reconfigure its terminal structure (where there are covered, elevated walk-ways, anyway).

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posted 18 January 2005 05:46 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just wanted to take this opportunity to shout out to my homies Karl Heinz and Brian.

Peace out.


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posted 18 January 2005 06:41 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm with Boom Boom, travelling on smaller planes (3 abreast max) is quite the bit more pleasureable than being smashed together and having the stewardess in quite the bad mood.

Although, if this in someway will allow the return of airline food, I say do it! Believe it or not, the two meals that I had on an airplane were most delectable, and given that me and my fellow travellers were excited pre-teens flying above the prarie provinces (as we were a little odd for children) we starred endless at the ground looking for crop circles. But boy, to this day I remember how I was the only one that loved that chicken plate. I swear, if I hadn't have been staring out that window looking for something I really knew I wouldn't see, not a plate on that airplane would've had wasted food.

I hate recalling events from 6 years ago. It reminds me that I can't ramble like an old man without feeling bad...Yet.


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posted 18 January 2005 07:20 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I was working, I flew a great deal. Six trips monthly on smaller aircraft, once a month on a regional jet, twice a year on the big 700 series (737, etc...). In the last two years of flying, all the airlines downgraded their food service to just cold sandwiches and stuff in a bag on the shorter hauls. Flying Ottawa - Vancouver and Ottawa - Manchester always resulted in hot meals. On the smaller aircraft used here (DH Twin Otters) you get half a sandwich, and a small can of orange juice. CBC took us inside the new Airbus tonight - and, wonder of wonders, it has a bar/lounge. Unreal. But the seating arrangements are going to be 3, 5, and 3 abreast again, I think. Yuck. Not for me.
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posted 18 January 2005 07:25 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder if airports will have to reinforce the runways, to accommodate the extra weight?

Personally the 727 and 777 are my fave airplanes.


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posted 18 January 2005 07:35 PM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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...and having the stewardess in quite the bad mood.

We say flight attendant, don't we?

I occasionally liked those little airline meals too -- it's true, they were a distraction and that was good, but sometimes the little broiled chicken breasts and tiny salads and little packaged this-and-that could be quite enjoyable, and you could get that little bottle of wine to go with them.


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posted 18 January 2005 08:17 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sharon:
We say flight attendant, don't we? QUOTE]

I'll give myself a slap on the wrist. I was trying to think of that term earlier, but... ah, well, all's well that ends well.


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posted 22 January 2005 01:54 AM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
PBS ran a documentary this week on the history of the Concorde.

Boeing apparently tried to build something similar but never got past wooden models.

For the same amount of money that Boeing and the U.S. government spent on wooden models, the British and French actually built a working aircraft.

Of course the Concorde was a commercial flop, but alot of what the Europeans learned building the Concorde went into building the Airbus and has made the Europeans direct competitors with the U.S. aerospace giants.

But yeah...I also hate being on big wide-body jets...especially those "middle" seats.


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posted 22 January 2005 02:26 AM      Profile for verbatim   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For those of you who like the non-"jumbo" jetliners, check out Boeing's plans around the 7E7 concept. The interiors look like sets from Star Trek: The Next Generation or Enterprise. The plane looks pretty cool, I must say.
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posted 22 January 2005 03:32 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow, that is a beautiful plane. Some cool features, too (no, not the 'e-capability', the fuel efficiency). You're right, the interiors are quite Trekkie.
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posted 22 January 2005 03:57 AM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Indeedy:


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posted 22 January 2005 05:53 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Those seats look really uncomfortable - presumably in an actual flying model the seats will be upholstered and padded?
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posted 22 January 2005 07:20 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah. I like the look of the 7E7 too. I think it's probably also more viable for the North American market than the A380, although the latter might do well in other markets. (Supposedly Emirites Airlines has ordered around forty of those monsters!)

As for the seats, I expect they'll vary from airline to airline. In any case, I imagine they'll be more comfortable than the ones in regional jets- the CRJ is a beautiful airplane, but from what I hear the seats are narrow and cramped.

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posted 22 January 2005 11:18 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I fly long distances, I try if possible not to book on a wide-body; unless I get an aisle seat. If I can't get an aisle seat, I'll go to another airline. I need to get up and walk around. I think the new 7E7 will be better for me than the monster A380. Wonder what their meals will be like?
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