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libertarian
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posted 09 August 2006 10:34 AM      Profile for libertarian        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have looked at 50 recipes for whole wheat bread and every single on uses either honey, molasses or sugar in varying proportions.

Q: Is this to enhance flavour or what? I can leave these out but was wondering if anyone has a good recipe not using a sweetener.

This is a problem similar to Granola. Every single recipe has some form of sugar added. I do not personally like sweet foods.

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posted 09 August 2006 10:36 AM      Profile for S1m0n        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeast needs sugars.
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posted 09 August 2006 12:39 PM      Profile for slimpikins     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Without the sugar, the yeast just sort of sits there and the bread or whatever doesn't rise, leaving you with a flat, thick mess.
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posted 09 August 2006 12:47 PM      Profile for Proaxiom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Baking is all about chemistry. Unless you really understand the chemistry (as good bakers do), you shouldn't mess with recipes.

I recommend Alton Brown's Food x Mixing + Heat = Baking.


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libertarian
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posted 09 August 2006 01:16 PM      Profile for libertarian        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks. I will get that book.
Note: I have successfully used recipes for Italian and other non-whole wheat breads from various French and Italian cookbooks, none of which have sugars added.

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posted 09 August 2006 01:17 PM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
libertarian, it's true that yeast needs sugar to work -- but you should be able to find a recipe that uses very little. Most recipes ask for about a tsp. of sugar to a package of yeast, added right at the beginning to activate the yeast. The sugar is "used up" by the yeast and doesn't add any sweetness to the bread.

Unless you really have something against it, I would suggest using a certain portion of white flour. Whole wheat flour on its own makes a really heavy textured bread.

Having said all that, I do have one recipe -- one!-- that uses all whole wheat flour and no sugar. It uses apple butter with the yeast -- which would provide a natural fruit sugar to feed the yeast and probably also add some nice taste and texture.

If you'd like me to post it, just say the word.


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posted 10 August 2006 06:13 AM      Profile for libertarian        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Please Sharon post it. It will be a while until I bake since I am still building the oven (outdoor wood-fired brick) I will then try it. TIA
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posted 10 August 2006 06:49 AM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll get back to this a little later today with the recipe.

I lived on a beach one summer and I built an outdoor oven out of rocks I collected in the vicinity, held together with local clay. I went to the nearby landfill and found a rack from a discarded stove and a small sheet of metal that I laid on top.

What good things I baked in that oven -- including bread!


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posted 10 August 2006 06:54 AM      Profile for libertarian        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks in advance Sharon. My oven is based on plans from the book Breadbuilders. It can hold heat for hours so I can bake bread, pizza, stews etc all with one firing.


BTW my questions about sugar relate to my observation thet everyting today has sugar added and I think that is not healthy. The other day I checked a can ot tomato soup and it had high fructose corn sugar added!


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posted 10 August 2006 09:21 AM      Profile for Proaxiom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
All things in moderation. Too much of anything is bad for you, including sugar.

As for processed foods, they are usually oversweetened, but there are things in there that would give me greater concern.


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Sharon
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posted 11 August 2006 06:22 AM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This recipe is from a book called Sweets Without Sugar. The authors had the same concerns that many people have -- that sugar is added to so many foods that we're probably all getting too much.

(An aside: I too was surprised to discover how much sugar is added to commercial peanut butter. We make our own now -- just dump a few handfuls of peanuts into the food processor and process them until they turn into peanut butter -- couldn't be easier.)

These recipes all use fruit juices, concentrates and purees of fruit as sweeteners.

Here it is -- 100 per cent Whole Wheat Bread

Yield: 2 loaves
Oven: 375 F.

1 cup warm water (110-115 F.)
2 tbsp. yeast
1 cup milk, scalded and cooled to 110 F.
1/4 cup apple butter
1/4 cup oil
2 tsp. salt
2 eggs, beaten
6 1/2 cups whole wheat bread flour

In a bowl, dissolve the yeast in warm water. Add the milk, apple butter, oil, salt and eggs. Stir well. Add 2 1/2 cups flour, beating well with an electric mixer or by hand. Cover with a clean tea towel and let rise in a warm place until doubled in bulk (about 40-45 minutes).

Reserve 1/2 cup flour for kneading and add the rest to the dough, mixing well. Turn out onto a floured board and knead for 8 to 10 minutes or until the dough is smooth and elastic. Place in a greased bowl, turning the dough to make sure it is well coated. Cover the bowl and set the dough to rise in a warm place until doubled in bulk.

Punch down the dough. Turn out onto a lightly floured board, divide into two equal portions and, using your hands, flatten each portion into a rectangle. Roll each rectangle up like a jelly roll to form a loaf. Place each loaf in a greased bread pan and let rise until doubled in bulk.

Bake at 375 F. for 40 minutes. Remove from pans and cool on a wire rack.

Eat and enjoy!


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