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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 25 March 2002 03:51 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just finished reading A People's History of the United States. Anybody know of good Canadian history books in a similar vein?
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Tommy_Paine
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posted 25 March 2002 10:34 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The way I like to learn history is to read books that are aimed at being entertaining as well as informative, and then go to the dryer more studious works for deeper understanding.

To this end, I'd recomend anything by Burton on Canadian History, and then follow it up with academic works. Once you have the colour behind the history, the academic stuff seems, for me at least, easier to grasp.


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rasmus
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posted 26 March 2002 12:24 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
'fraid not, mediaboi, all the Canadian history books I know require toothpicks so you can prop your eyelids open while reading them.
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donna
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posted 27 March 2002 10:43 PM      Profile for donna     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As a graduate student in Canadian History I beg to differ on that last point. I would suggest reading History of the Canadian Peoples by Conrad, Finkel and Jaenen or the Origins/Destinies series by Francis, Jones and Smith.

I liked the suggestion with starting with something colourful and then moving to the Academic. These two books are geared for first year survey courses so they attempt to both highlight historical debates and tell an interesting story.


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Tommy_Paine
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posted 27 March 2002 11:00 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I liked the suggestion with starting with something colourful and then moving to the Academic.

I learned that through reading about the Republican and Claudian Dynasty Eras in Roman History. There's no shortage of rather colourful books on the subjects (Collen McCullough's well researched, if not well received efforts and of course Graves' "I Claudius", to name a couple), but there's nothing like going to the Academic histories to answer questions in your mind that those authors might not address.

And, after that if you go to the original sources (or, what we believe are original sources) like the works of Cicero, or Julius Ceasar, or even just the poems of Catalus, the whole subject comes alive.


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vaudree
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posted 27 March 2002 11:32 PM      Profile for vaudree     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I should really be recommending "Make This Your Canada" by David Lewis and Frank Scott or "Clearing in the West" by Nellie McClung. But here it goes:
Canada: A People's History
Bastards and Boneheads
The Sky is Falling
Gargoyles: A Hidden history of Canada/The Death of René Lévesque

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meades
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posted 28 March 2002 12:42 AM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I found "Bastards and Boneheads" by Will Ferguson (a proud supporter of the Rhino party) to be hilarious, and pretty fun to read, though it's not really concise, or authoritative. It's just a pleasant change from the tradition of dry, boring history books.

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vaudree
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posted 28 March 2002 12:52 PM      Profile for vaudree     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Should history be authoritative?

If you could listen to Maggie without making dodo, we have quite the fascinating history because it does not come from above. For every major event there was more than one opinion and for every rule there was an exception. The lack of authority is what makes it Canadian.

Maybe we should ask what is not history.

Are the Canadian docu-dramas fact or fiction? We have quite a few of those, from Sue Rodregues to David Millgaard, to Sheldon Kennedy, to Colin Thatcher - to the Avro Arrow to the Boys of St. Vincent. Even the fictional charactors are conglomerates of a bunch of real charactors - and the gaps between the things we know are filled with story.

There is a new docu-drama this weekend: Trudeau- the Miniseries. Is that history or is it fiction?


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 28 March 2002 01:04 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don McKellar's character is an amalgam of a few different people. It ain't history, it's a biopic. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Canada: A People's History doesn't count. CBC?Liberal propaganda, that is.

I'm often told that Pierre Berton plays too fast and loose with the facts.

Most of the good suggestions I've received are for books about specific events or people. Few people could come up with a good survey text in the same spirit as Zinn's US book. Oh well, I still got good suggestions.


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