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Topic: A Fair Country, Telling Truths about Canada: John Ralston Saul
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hali
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posted 21 September 2008 04:16 PM
http://www.thestar.com/comment/columnists/article/502756Haroon Siddiqui Unfulfilled nation torn from its aboriginal roots Sep 21, 2008 04:30 AM Re: John Ralston Saul, philosopher and prolific writer. He is the author of such groundbreaking bestsellers as The Collapse of Globalism (challenging prevailing economic orthodoxy) and Voltaire's Bastard: The Dictatorship of Reason (bemoaning the trumping of justice by reason). His latest book is A Fair Country, Telling Truths about Canada (Viking), to be released, propitiously, as it turns out, in time for the Oct. 14 election. "Canada is in trouble because it has been untethered from its aboriginal moorings."
"The central inspiration of our country is aboriginal ... How we imagine ourselves, how we govern, how we live together, how we treat one another when we are not being stupid is deeply aboriginal ... ....... This is so awesome. Thank you Jon Ralston Saul. You speak from the heart of Canadians. We are three founding nations, Indigenous, French, British, in that chronological order. Our laws include Indigenous, French and British traditions. Indigenous Peoples are, as Saul so rightly points out, "the senior founding pillar of our civilization." Their 'say in development, and a share in revenues' is now quite simply TOO long overdue. How wonderful that this book is coming out before the election. There is a real need to boost the public and campaign-related profile of Aboriginal rights issues, particularly our governments' failure to negotiate before developing, the cause of disturbing confrontations in several locations, and an immediate general concern right across the land. It demands prompt legislated resolutions, imo, to properly and consistently implement the laws of Canada, to stop the need for confrontation, and re-orient our thinking. The apology was nice ... but we need to take immediate action too, imo, to respect the ancestral rights of Indigenous Peoples of Canada.
From: Hamilton | Registered: Jun 2008
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fartherleft
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posted 19 October 2008 07:30 AM
I just picked up a copy of this book from the library the other day and have once again run into the same problem I have had with Mr. Saul's other books. The ideas and concepts are not the ideas and concepts that I, as a non-academic will come across in my everyday life and certainly not in my education which was technological. Once again I find myself beginning to grasp the concepts, and realize that I have to go back and start over to make sure I "get" all of it. This book ought to be required reading for every thinking Canadian, and most certainly every aspiring politician. It is a clear concise explanation of what we are and how we came to be. With regard to the above comments, I agree, that the apology was "nice, but" to an extent. On the other hand I think that the apology, in its entirety clearly shows that our government does not understand what it is to be Canadian in the context of what John Ralston Saul is saying. The apology does not go far enough. It doesn't begin to address the problem nor does it show that we understand what the problem is. There clearly needs to be a rethink by Canadians about who and what we are. I agree with him that if we accept that there are three founding cultures at the base of our nation, then we can come to terms with ourselves. As I have stated above, I have just begun to read this book and will be starting over. My grasp of the concepts are still not clear enough, but this book is clearly a really big light bulb that will illuminate the darker corners of our. understanding of this country.
From: Hamilton, Ontario | Registered: Oct 2008
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George Victor
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posted 19 October 2008 07:56 AM
I have asked the library about providing A Fair Country and will check again today to see if it's on the way. It should be available to the public in the valley of the Grand River, far as I can make out from the above postings. Ronald Wright's What is America was booked ahead some months, so I picked up a copy. It is difficult to read - not for an academic bias, but as a tragedy of enormous dimensions . It underlines Saul's position, even if focused on the U.S. I'll post a peek in a couple of days.
From: Cambridge, ON | Registered: Oct 2007
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vaudree
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posted 24 October 2008 04:44 PM
quote: In this startlingly original vision of Canada, thinker John Ralston Saul unveils 3 founding myths. Saul argues that the famous "peace, order, and good government" that supposedly defines Canada is a distortion of the country's true nature. Every single document before the BNA Act, he points out, used the phrase "peace, welfare, and good government," demonstrating that the well-being of its citizenry was paramount. He also argues that Canada is a Metis nation, heavily influenced and shaped by aboriginal ideas: egalitarianism, a proper balance between individual and group, and a penchant for negotiation over violence are all aboriginal values that Canada absorbed.
Aren't some of these values CCF values? The Metis culture is a bit different than either Native or European cultures - a sort of hybrid. Negotiation would help one deal with both mom and dad. Remember when Air Farce portrayed JRS as a hamster running around in his cage? I think Luba was Adrienne Clarkson.
From: Just outside St. Boniface | Registered: Sep 2001
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