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Psychics were recruited by the Ministry of Defence to locate Osama Bin Laden's secret lair, it was claimed yesterday.

Newly declassified documents revealed that the MoD conducted an experiment to see if volunteers could 'see' objects hidden inside an envelope.

It is claimed the ministry hoped positive results would allow it to use psychics to 'remotely view' Bin Laden's base and also to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

However, after running up a bill of £18,000 of taxpayers' money, defence chiefs concluded there was 'little value' in using psychic powers in the defence of the nation and the research was taken no further.

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Read it here.

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US intelligence agencies are recruiting psychics to help predict future attacks and to find Osama Bin Laden. The recruits, known as "remote viewers", claim to be able to visualise happenings in distant places by using paranormal powers.

The US government established a remote viewing programme, known as Stargate, in the 1970s in an attempt to utilise the skills claimed by psychics to combat communism. The programme, at the Stanford Research Institute in California, was shut down in 1995 after the end of the cold war.

Now, however, US intelligence agencies are reactivating some of their old paranormal spies.

Prudence Calabrese, whose Transdimensional Systems employs 14 remote viewers, confirmed that the FBI had asked the company to predict likely targets of future terrorist attacks.

"Our reports suggest a sports stadium could be a likely target," she said.

The FBI and CIA refused to comment but confirmed investigators have been told to "think out of the box".

Angela Thompson-Smith and Lyn Buchanan, former members of Stargate, said that they, too, had been approached.

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Originally posted by Fidel:
I wonder what the real reason for the evol empire using psychics was.

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Originally posted by Fidel:
I wonder what the real reason for the evol empire using psychics was. Would any of you want to go to work for them ?.

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Originally posted by M. Spector:
The real reason is that the brainstrust in charge of the evil empire has such little regard for science and such high regard for religion and superstition.

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Ultra was(is?) an experiment in using chemicals and drugs to alter the behavior of subjects unaware of their participation. It is a program that could have sprung from the mind of Dr. Mengele. Perhaps it did in a way, considering the vast number of Nazis engaged by US intelligence services after the war, and the enthusiasm shown by the US government for grotesque and horrific experiments on its own citizens.

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Originally posted by Jingles:
MK Ultra was a different bird from the baffling stupidity of the employment of "psychics".

Ultra was(is?).

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Ultra was a big budget military project with dozens of sub-programs. Donald Cameron worked for the OSS before it became the CIA, and some of the people he worked with and whose work he drew upon did so-called research into everything from eugenics and torture to mind control, psychic driving and telepathy. There were a string of scientists in their employ who had the worst of luck falling out of tenth story and higher windows. Not all of the accident-prone were in the MK program.

CIA director Richard Helms(Watergate), no relation to Jesse Helms of the "Helms-Burton" (a different breed of ultra right-wing cold war whacko), is alleged to have ordered all Mk Ultra documentation destroyed and the program ended in 1973. Supposedly.

It's what happens when psychopaths take orders from sociopaths, you get a big bloated politically conservative shadow government bureaucracy where the right hand doesn't know what the other right hand is doing most of the time. Conservatives love bloated bureaucracies. Observe Homeland Security fiasco spilling over into Ottawa's agenda. I think our weak-minded, corrupt Conservative and Liberal politicos could be drone subjects of some MK Ultra sub-program gone awry.

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Originally posted by Fidel:
And the Japanese. The west recovered a wealth of Mengele-like so called research from them at the end of WWII. Little bastards.

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I am still sort of new here, but isn't referring to the Japanese as "little bastards" a bit of a racist generalization, and not acceptable on babble.

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Originally posted by oreobw:

I am still sort of new here, but isn't referring to the Japanese as "little bastards" a bit of a racist generalization, and not acceptable on babble.

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Originally posted by aka Mycroft:
Perhaps we should blindfold Bush, spin him around a few times, and then have him pin the tail on the donkey with the donkey being a map of Afghanistan and then direct US bombing raids accordingly.

Oh, sorry, that's already been done.

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