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Topic: Fossil Found Linking Sea to Land Animals
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Wee Mousie
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posted 09 April 2006 04:20 AM
quote: Fossil Called Missing Link From Sea to Land Animals by John Noble Wilford April 6, 2006Scientists have discovered fossils of a 375-million-year-old fish, a large scaly creature not seen before, that they say is a long-sought missing link in the evolution of some fishes from water to a life walking on four limbs on land. In two reports today in the journal Nature, a team of scientists led by Neil H. Shubin of the University of Chicago say they have uncovered several well-preserved skeletons of the fossil fish in sediments of former streambeds in the Canadian Arctic, 600 miles from the North Pole. The skeletons have the fins, scales and other attributes of a giant fish, four to nine feet long. But on closer examination, the scientists found telling anatomical traits of a transitional creature, a fish that is still a fish but has changes that anticipate the emergence of land animals — and is thus a predecessor of amphibians, reptiles and dinosaurs, mammals and eventually humans. . . . . . . Dr. Shubin's team played down the fossil's significance in the raging debate over Darwinian theory, which is opposed mainly by some conservative Christians in this country, but other scientists were not so reticent. They said this should undercut the argument that there is no evidence in the fossil record of one kind of creature becoming another kind. . . .
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Radical Progressive
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posted 09 April 2006 05:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hephaestion: Damn those gawdless Canadians!..
Huh? "Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God" "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" Also: It seems a common mistake among babblers to assume that only lefties are evolutionists, while all righties are Christian fundamentalists. Just stick to what one knows and one will stay credible.
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Radical Progressive
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posted 09 April 2006 07:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hephaestion: ..Why do you fellahs always list your location as "Canada"?..
My location is at least a location. Not sure about the trolling thing. I'm just trying to be a true radical and a true progressive. As in "unconventional", "going to the origin", "characterized by advancement", and "characterized by striving for change and innovation, avant-garde, liberal". Btw, ones jokes are typically quite telling.
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Reality. Bites.
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posted 09 April 2006 09:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Radical Progressive: Btw, ones jokes are typically quite telling.
Not as telling as someone having PMs turned off. That's virtually a guarantee you're a right-wing troll who will, thankfully, soon cross the line and be banned. Let me be the first to say you won't be missed.
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maestro
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posted 09 April 2006 04:15 PM
There was an unbelieveably stupid editorial in the Vancouver Province today re: the 'missing link' fish. It's locked up, so I'll just post a few quotes directly from the paper. quote: 'Ancient fish fossil tips the scales in favour of evolution.'...And yet, while evolution as first conceived of by Charles Darwin in the 19th century is generally accepted as explaining the origins of man, not everyone is convinced. ...We cannot say with certainty whether one theory (evolution) or another (intelligent design) is correct, though tiktaalik rosea seems to tip the balance in favour of evolution. What we can say is that piecing together the long-buried bones of the walking fish my help resolve the amazing riddle that is the origin of humankind.
'Tips the scales in favour of evolution'? Yeah, like there's currently a number of different explanations for the flora and fauna of the world, and this find will sort of help one theory out a bit. Breathtaking. Oh well, I've long since come to the conclusion that the Province is run by the terminally naive, and this just reinforces my belief. I'll just add that any fossil which is not exactly like a fossil already found is a 'missing link'. There is nothing special about 'missing links' except that they are intermediate between other already recovered fossils. Any fossil which is intermediate is a 'missing link', but the science of evolution already has plenty of evidence of the evolution of life on earth. Missing links are great to find, but they don't offer much more than confirmatory detail of the overall picture. Of course, they're very interesting in themselves, and worthy of study, but they are not necessary to 'prove' the theory of evolution. That has long since happened. The discovery of DNA was probably the single most important piece of evidence supporting the theory of evolution.
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fern hill
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posted 09 April 2006 05:34 PM
I just learned something over on the Dark Site. No, really. They're discussing this fossil with their usual dimwittedness, but something one of them said made a lightbulb go off. The poster referred to the one-eyed cat (mentioned in another thread here as the centrepiece of a new museum of creationism). I didn't understand why a one-eyed cat would feature in a creationism museum. Now I do. See, if evolution were 'correct', then freaks and chimeras would live and prosper and presumably breed more of themselves. (Just leave the lunacy of that for a moment.) This cat was 'wrong' so it died. These people cannot accept evolution because it would mean that nothing is 'wrong'. Not even homosexuals!!! The poster over there made this explicit. Holy moly.
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deBeauxOs
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posted 09 April 2006 07:20 PM
Thus the very existence of the Freak Dumb-minion and its participants demonstrates that evolution happens, alas. According to 'Intelligent Design', those dimwits over on the Dark Side would not and could not breed and replicate themselves because they are, individually and collectively, so very wrong! quote: posted by fern hill: ... See, if evolution were 'correct', then freaks and chimeras would live and prosper and presumably breed more of themselves. (Just leave the lunacy of that for a moment.) This cat was 'wrong' so it died. These people cannot accept evolution because it would mean that nothing is 'wrong'.
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Serendipity
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posted 09 April 2006 08:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by fern hill: I just learned something over on the Dark Site. No, really. They're discussing this fossil with their usual dimwittedness, but something one of them said made a lightbulb go off. The poster referred to the one-eyed cat (mentioned in another thread here as the centrepiece of a new museum of creationism). I didn't understand why a one-eyed cat would feature in a creationism museum. Now I do. See, if evolution were 'correct', then freaks and chimeras would live and prosper and presumably breed more of themselves. (Just leave the lunacy of that for a moment.) This cat was 'wrong' so it died. These people cannot accept evolution because it would mean that nothing is 'wrong'. Not even homosexuals!!! The poster over there made this explicit. Holy moly.
It actually hurt when I'd tried to understand the logic behind at.
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