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posted 07 May 2004 03:14 AM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So let me get this argument straight:

The Russian Orthodox Church believes that God wants us to use Julian calendar, which is scientifically inaccurate and invented by a Roman Pagan, rather than the Gregorian calendar, which is scidentifically accurate and invented by a Christian?

Am I the only one to find this insanely illogical?


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DrConway
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posted 07 May 2004 03:39 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not at all.

Even the Gregorian calendar has its own defects, and it turns out that due to not accounting for the Earth's rotational period slowing over the centuries, we have to unofficially add "leap seconds" to the times that the atomic clocks keep, from which all other clocks are generally set.

It is thought that the continued addition of leap seconds could cause problems if a computer whose programs require precise timekeeping does a clock synchronization during the leap second adjustment and the one-second discrepancy screws up something important - obviously the more leap seconds that need to get added the more likely this may occur.

However for practical everyday purposes the addition of leap seconds is only a benefit to proper timekeeping.


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posted 07 May 2004 04:22 AM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yep. I've heard of that.

Perhaps if the slow down rate of the Earth's rotation (Revolution? The Earth rotates on its own axis and revolves around the sun.) can be measured on the basis of some mathematical model we can calibrate our calendar slightly to account for it.


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Gir Draxon
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posted 07 May 2004 05:46 AM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by NDP Newbie:
Yep. I've heard of that.

Perhaps if the slow down rate of the Earth's rotation (Revolution? The Earth rotates on its own axis and revolves around the sun.) can be measured on the basis of some mathematical model we can calibrate our calendar slightly to account for it.


Didn't the Pope once arbitarily change the date to "make up for missed leap years"? We could do that every few centuries to account for missed leap seconds (although today we would have to have a lot more than just the Pope on board)


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posted 07 May 2004 03:20 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Gir Draxon:

Didn't the Pope once arbitarily change the date to "make up for missed leap years"? We could do that every few centuries to account for missed leap seconds (although today we would have to have a lot more than just the Pope on board)


Likely as part of the transition between the Julian and the Gregorian calendar. I believe the biggest change was that in years ending in 00, a leap year would only occur if the year were a multiple of 400.


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Michelle
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posted 07 May 2004 06:54 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Moving this to the "ideas, etc." forum.
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Agent 204
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posted 07 May 2004 07:03 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The UK adopted the Gregorian calendar a couple of centuries after most of Europe. Apparently old British insect books referred to the Pearl-bordered Fritillary (Boloria euphrosyne) as the "April Fritillary", but the name became obsolete with the change.

When the calendar did change there were riots with mobs of people shouting "Give us back our eleven days!"


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Cougyr
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posted 07 May 2004 07:09 PM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Funny that the last four months translate as seven, eight, nine and ten.
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posted 07 May 2004 07:10 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
When the calendar did change there were riots with mobs of people shouting "Give us back our eleven days!"

I Read Somewhere(tm) that there was some rationality behind this chant.

Landlords typically charged rent on a quarterly basis -- and, of course, almost everyone else was a renter. That particular quarter was 11 days shorter, but landlords didn't prorate that quarter's rent accordingly. So tenants were within their rights to be angry.


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