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Snuckles
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posted 22 November 2005 10:43 PM      Profile for Snuckles   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Creationism and intelligent design are slated to be the subjects of a Kansas University class next semester — but as mythology, not science.

“The KU faculty has had enough,” said Paul Mirecki, chairman of KU’s religious studies department. He said he planned to teach “Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies” next semester.

Mirecki’s plans angered some of the state’s religious conservatives, who earlier this month successfully pushed changes in state science standards that critique evolution. And one intelligent design proponent questioned Mirecki’s science credentials.


Read it here.


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Sven
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posted 22 November 2005 10:53 PM      Profile for Sven     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Explain to me how DNA arose in the primordial soup?"

Yeah. Take that. Nana-nana boo-boo.

These IDers are nuts. They wouldn't understand scientific methodology if it was shaped like a bear trap and they sat on it.


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ShyViolet
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posted 23 November 2005 01:27 AM      Profile for ShyViolet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hurray! A Kansas school with some SENSE!!!!
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pogge
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posted 06 December 2005 10:32 AM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The course has been cancelled and Mirecki was hospitalized yesterday after being beaten by a couple of people who obviously weren't fans of his ideas.

[ 06 December 2005: Message edited by: pogge ]


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Hephaestion
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posted 06 December 2005 10:43 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is just *sick*. Like I've said before, Kansas should be bombed into black glass -- it's irredeemably stupid.
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Michelle
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posted 06 December 2005 10:50 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by pogge:
The course has been cancelled and Mirecki was hospitalized yesterday after being beaten by a couple of people who obviously weren't fans of his ideas.

Must be that Christian love the fundies keep talking about having in their hearts.


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jrootham
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posted 06 December 2005 11:48 AM      Profile for jrootham     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It appears that "fundies" is an insult on a par with "niggers". Who knew?

[ 06 December 2005: Message edited by: jrootham ]


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Michelle
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posted 06 December 2005 12:01 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What???

I'm not sure what your criticism is, but I wasn't generalizing about all Christians - I was talking about fundamentalists who claim they are showing "Christian love" when they try to shove their religious beliefs (often oppressive to other religions and sexual orientations) down everyone's throats.

So, I'm not sure what you're getting at, if that post is aimed at me.

[ 06 December 2005: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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Mr. Magoo
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posted 06 December 2005 12:07 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
after being beaten by a couple of people who obviously weren't fans of his ideas.

If they catch the goons that did this they should tattoo a pentagram on their foreheads in lieu of jail time.


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Ginger Jar
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posted 06 December 2005 12:14 PM      Profile for Ginger Jar        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Posted by Hephaestion:

quote:
That is just *sick*. Like I've said before, Kansas should be bombed into black glass -- it's irredeemably stupid.

Would you like to see Iran bombed into black glass? That would be irredeemably stupid.

Posted by jrootham:

quote:
It appears that "fundies" is an insult on a par with "niggers". Who knew?

WTF?


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voice of the damned
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posted 06 December 2005 12:29 PM      Profile for voice of the damned     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Posted by jrootham:


quote:
It appears that "fundies" is an insult on a par with "niggers". Who knew?

WTF?


Not that it really needs to be said, but insults about political beliefs(in which we can include ACTIVIST fundamentalism) are an honoured tradition of political debate. Cocktail socialists, limousine liberals, conservative dinosaurs, and so on and so forth.


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cogito ergo sum
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posted 06 December 2005 01:06 PM      Profile for cogito ergo sum     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How is fundie an insult really. It's just a diminutive for fundamentalist. I thought fundamentalists identify with the name, so what's the big deal?

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jrootham
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posted 06 December 2005 01:12 PM      Profile for jrootham     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oops. I was too brief and therefor obscure, not to mention actually thinking about a different report on the subject than the current link.

I was actually referring to this.

quote:

One recent e-mail from Mirecki sent to members of a student organization referred to religious conservatives as ''fundies'' and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a ''nice slap in their big fat face.'' Mirecki has apologized for those comments.

...

Hemenway said Mirecki's comments were ''repugnant and vile.''


I would say repugnant and vile is over the top, I would go with mildly insulting.


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Makwa
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posted 06 December 2005 01:17 PM      Profile for Makwa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jrootham:
It appears that "fundies" is an insult on a par with "niggers". Who knew?
jrootham would you care to explain this crass, racist comment?

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Gir Draxon
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posted 06 December 2005 01:25 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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[ 06 December 2005: Message edited by: Gir Draxon ]


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jrootham
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posted 06 December 2005 03:36 PM      Profile for jrootham     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I would like to apologize for my use of a racial epithet above. It has been pointed out to me that even as a bad example it was not a good thing to do.
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Hephaestion
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posted 06 December 2005 03:46 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ginger Jar:
Would you like to see Iran bombed into black glass? That would be irredeemably stupid.

Good thing I only wanna bomb Kansas into black glass then, eh?


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Boarsbreath
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posted 06 December 2005 07:00 PM      Profile for Boarsbreath   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 06 December 2005 07:10 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:

Good thing I only wanna bomb Kansas into black glass then, eh?


You have to let us evacuate all the progressives out of Kansas first.

Both of them.


(OK, seriously, at least the religious faculty of the University of Kansas who are sticking up for evolution)


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