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Anchoress
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posted 23 June 2005 05:51 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A small, fossilized mammal had what appears to be poisonous fangs that allowed it to bite like a snake – the first such find in an extinct mammal, Canadian researchers say.

The name of the creature is Bisonalveus browni, but other names considered by scientists include Marsdenalveus stalki and Frumcoulterus ranti, both rejected because it would set a dangerous precedent to name one extinct animal after another.


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Albireo
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posted 23 June 2005 06:00 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Anchoress:
... other names considered by scientists include Marsdenalveus stalki and Frumcoulterus ranti...
When I saw this story earlier, about a mammal with venomous fangs, it occurred to me that Anne Coulter's ancestor had finally been found.

More on topic: it is interesting that so few venomous mammals survived to the present day. And that this fossil dates to 60 million years ago, 5 million years after the great extinction that wiped out the dinosaurs.

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posted 23 June 2005 06:16 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Frumcoulterus ranti

More like the fruit of a union between David and Ann.

They talk about using venom to defend oneself or to find food; I wonder which it would be for this critter; could he have been the terror of the molehill?


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Papal Bull
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posted 23 June 2005 06:56 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is the platypus a mammal? Because I know for a fact that it is poisonous.

Oh well...

Still, definitely interesting. And what sort of toxin was it?


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Anchoress
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posted 23 June 2005 06:58 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes it is and the article mentions it, as well as a couple of other venomous mammals.
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arborman
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posted 23 June 2005 07:13 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Given that mammals tend to consume milk from their parents, I can see how a venomous mammal might not last long...
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posted 24 June 2005 12:58 AM      Profile for voice of the damned     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Is the platypus a mammal? Because I know for a fact that it is poisonous.

Wow, news to me. The Scottish-accented ones on Mr Rogers always seemed so nice.


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Agent 204
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posted 24 June 2005 07:52 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Anchoress:

The name of the creature is Bisonalveus browni, but other names considered by scientists include Marsdenalveus stalki and Frumcoulterus ranti, both rejected because it would set a dangerous precedent to name one extinct animal after another.

That reminds me of what came to mind when I learned that there's a genus of bass called Morone. I figured that in the unlikely case that I end up describing a new species in that genus, I'd call it Morone gwbushi.

And yes, the Duckbill Platypus is venomous, but it doesn't have poisonous fangs. Instead it's got venomous spurs on its legs (not strong enough to be lethal to humans though).

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posted 24 June 2005 08:57 PM      Profile for cabana me banana     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Too bad there's no anti-venom for Ann Coulter.
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Anchoress
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posted 24 June 2005 09:02 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But I've heard that if you spray her with Holy Water she melts.
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