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Adam T
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posted 08 June 2004 01:50 AM      Profile for Adam T     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The NDP should say that they have many positions similar to the Bloc on social, economic and 'good government' issues.

However the Bloc can not get their views implemented because no political party will form a 'coalition' with them in the event of a minority government.

The NDP can form a minority with the Liberals, but they need to be able to form a majority togehter. If the Bloc wins too many seats, the NDP and Liberal numbers combined will likely not add to a majority. (I don't think this is too complicated an argument for Quebecers, they've shown they understand electoral math calculations in the past)

The NDP should say, they understand many Quebecers want to punish the Liberals and don't want them to be in power but, that is not a practical view, because somebody has to govern.

So, if you elect New Democrats they can keep the Liberals honest with a 'clean government' agenda. And, at the same time, they can advance a set of progressive social and economic policies.

The slogan could be something like "If you want to see your issues implemented, vote NPD"

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posted 08 June 2004 01:55 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Wow... that would be remarkably out of touch with Quebec politics, and would go over like a ton of bricks.
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Adam T
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posted 08 June 2004 02:01 AM      Profile for Adam T     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
And, why would that be?
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posted 08 June 2004 02:03 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Moreover, why don't you continue the discussion here rather than starting a new thread?

I agree with rasmus. On the contrary, the Bloc is the "vote utile" here, they stand a far greater chance of election and will at least send a cohesive opposition to Parliament. The only way any NDP candidates can get elected or at least increase their score is to appear more consistent on social issues than the Bloc - which was originally indeed a "rotten bloc" between old nationalist Tories and social-democrats from the trade union movement and other progressive forces.

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Jean Seb
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posted 08 June 2004 02:04 AM      Profile for Jean Seb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Lesson one of Québec politics :

NEVER underestimate the power of separatists.

They form a bloc behind the bloc (sorry for the awful pun) and they dont care if they are in the opposition for the most part...

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posted 08 June 2004 05:48 PM      Profile for simonvallee   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This is a bad idea. You start with a message designed to compare us to the Bloc (thus trying to win over bloquistes), but bloquistes don't want the Liberals in power, so going out and saying "you know, if you vote for us, we'll ally with the Liberals and allow them to continue to govern" is pretty much the stupidest thing we could say. Say that in English Canada, but not her.

Regarding a possible minority, we should adopt the same position as the Bloc, "We will support any initiative that is consistant with our own positions on issues and that will answer to Québec's best interest".

If there is one strategy that we have to do here on the field, is denying the Bloc's message that "only the Bloc defends the interests of Québec", maybe even turn it against them, since we can say it shows an incapacity of negotiating with the rest of Canada as it supposes a natural opposition between the interests of Quebecois and Canadians.

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