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Sharon
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posted 30 March 2004 01:59 PM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Gordon Campbell and the B.C. Liberal government campaigned on the slogan that a “new era” was necessary for British Columbia — an era, they argued, where the excesses of the social democratic governments before it had to be brought under control. Health care, welfare, education and legal aid have all suffered from his special attention. Now it is B.C. Women's Centres that are on the chopping block.

Full story

I encourage anyone who's so inclined to go to Save Women's Centres and give Gordo a piece of your mind.


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faith
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posted 30 March 2004 05:41 PM      Profile for faith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The sad truth is that the Campbell liberals could not give a hoot what anyone has to say that disagrees with their policy.
A number of representatives from the women's centres went to see Ms. Chong to try and postpone the closures until a compromise solution could be reached. These women were given a very unsatisfactory meeting and quickly escorted out the door. Refusing to leave the legislature until they had their concerns properly addressed they sat down and said they would wait it out. It took under 1/2 an hour for them to be escorted out the door of the legislature in hand cuffs by the RCMP. I'm not sure what they were charged with but I think that trespassing may have been one of the charges.

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arborman
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posted 30 March 2004 06:09 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The impact this is having in communities is absolutely devastating.

It isn't just women's centres, it is a lethal mix of cuts to Income Assistance and Legal Aid services as well.

As a result, women in abusive situations now have difficulty accessing legal support, and cannot get Income Assistance (which is means tested, and the spouse's income and assets are included).

WOmen are being forced to go to court without legal representation, often facing their formerly abusive husbands/boyfriends who have lawyers. A pretense of justice at best, often with horrible consequences.

Similar issues are happening in custody battles, where the abusive partner controls all the funds that were formerly shared. As a result, there is a lawyer representing on side, and a woman fighting to keep her kids out of the abuser's cluthces on the other. Unfortunately, courts are not friendly to the non-lawyer.

This has been going on for quite awhile already, and the women's centre cuts are just the latest assault.

It boggles the mind, and further underlines the sheer inhumanity that drives much of the neoconservative agenda. When you try to govern to a graph, rather than govern to human dignity and rights, people suffer. Fucking technocrats.


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Cougyr
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posted 30 March 2004 06:43 PM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a goofy "mushroom" ideology at work here. These guys really seem to believe that if you keep people in the dark and bury them in manure that great things will grow. What they just don't get is that it only works with mushrooms.
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dirtyblond
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posted 13 April 2004 05:32 PM      Profile for dirtyblond     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I tried of going to a bunch of men when it comes to my needs. The best these bunch of losers have been able to come up with is a dramatic increase in prostitution. What for themselves? We need proper representatiuon which relects our needs and wants and not the good old boys take on it. Come on this is truly bordering on the ridiculous ladies we are the majority, we rule but you would never know it.

politician? predator?


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dirtyblond
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posted 13 April 2004 05:57 PM      Profile for dirtyblond     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
and the Era well I call it the new Errie!

BC EQUATION WOMEN + CHILDREN = DEATH


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dark_blue
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posted 13 April 2004 06:01 PM      Profile for dark_blue     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Should government really be funding women centers? If you truly want the centers, why not start funding them yourself?
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dirtyblond
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posted 13 April 2004 06:17 PM      Profile for dirtyblond     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
good things happen in threes? how about a political organization, women only, across canada 365 days a year we could do things like lobby boycott etc something different something truly dynamic something representative of women's needs
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Doug
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posted 13 April 2004 06:23 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dark_blue:
Should government really be funding women centers? If you truly want the centers, why not start funding them yourself?

Women's centres rely heavily on donations as is and experience elsewhere has shown that these centres (and other social service organizations) have great difficulty replacing public funding with private donations. The difference is almost never made up, resulting in the loss of services. In this case, loss of service could be quite deadly if women facing extremely abusive situations at home no longer have anywhere to go.


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dark_blue
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posted 13 April 2004 06:30 PM      Profile for dark_blue     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Women's centres rely heavily on donations as is and experience elsewhere has shown that these centres (and other social service organizations) have great difficulty replacing public funding with private donations. The difference is almost never made up, resulting in the loss of services. In this case, loss of service could be quite deadly if women facing extremely abusive situations at home no longer have anywhere to go.

This maybe a little different organization than the one present, but I know of a private drug treatment center here in Calgary which I believe runs on 80% donations and 20% funding from the government, so to me I think another center like that for women could work without alot of government funding.


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Cougyr
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posted 13 April 2004 06:30 PM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dirtyblond:
I tried of going to a bunch of men when it comes to my needs. The best these bunch of losers have been able to come up with is a dramatic increase in prostitution. What for themselves? We need proper representatiuon which relects our needs and wants and not the good old boys take on it. Come on this is truly bordering on the ridiculous ladies we are the majority, we rule but you would never know it.

politician? predator?


This is a phenomenon that puzzles me. Women could have enormous political clout, if they acted together, but they don't. My wife and I are continually stunned by the many women we meet who kowtow to their men. Since they do everything else they are told to, we can only assume that they vote the way they are told.


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HeywoodFloyd
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posted 13 April 2004 06:36 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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how about a political organization, women only, across canada 365 days a year we could do things like lobby boycott etc something different something truly dynamic something representative of women's needs

You could call it the National Action Committee on the Status of Women.


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faith
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posted 13 April 2004 09:23 PM      Profile for faith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
National Action Committee , the same one that has had it's funds cut by the federal liberals?
The money that these centres received was a drop in the bucket for the governent but a crucial lifeline for the centres. Most of the centres ran on volunteer time and the small amount of money was usually for rent ,. I believe that I saw somewhere that the money amounted to slightly less than a dollar per woman in BC . The services that this provided were so cost effective the government couldn't possibly replace them.

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dirtyblond
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posted 14 April 2004 07:04 PM      Profile for dirtyblond     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The National Committee is not working for us, something different, I'm still at the drawing board, however we could say maybe stop shopping at say liberal supporters (thats what we do best I hear in fact we are the #1 consumer)

Women doing what they are told....humm...yah right...sure dear what ever you say. It is a secret ballot.

dark blue what are you?


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arborman
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posted 14 April 2004 08:38 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dark_blue:

This maybe a little different organization than the one present, but I know of a private drug treatment center here in Calgary which I believe runs on 80% donations and 20% funding from the government, so to me I think another center like that for women could work without alot of government funding.


Bzzt, wrong. First of all, the 20% was just cut. Second, the circumstance in Calgary is very different than in smaller communities.

They weren't receiving a lot of government funding to start with. Now the government can spend that money on hospital bills, court fees, and higher policing and jail costs as women living in abusive situations are denied options and support in their communities.

Your ignorance and inability to empathize with others is impressive. Read a book or something, do some background research.

Pop quiz: What does/did a women's centre do in BC?


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DrConway
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posted 14 April 2004 09:56 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not at liberty to speak on details, but I can tell you that these cutbacks are already hurting women in their pocketbooks by forcing them to incur child-care expenses while they try to stabilize their lives.
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