babble home
rabble.ca - news for the rest of us
today's active topics


Post New Topic  Post A Reply
FAQ | Forum Home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» babble   » current events   » national news   » Rudy Giuliani to be knighted

Email this thread to someone!    
Author Topic: Rudy Giuliani to be knighted
MJ
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 441

posted 12 February 2002 04:54 PM      Profile for MJ     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Click.

Although this comment worries me a little:

quote:
"Winston Churchill is my great hero," Giuliani said in an interview with the Daily Telegraph. "

I used Churchill to teach me how to reinvigorate the spirit of a dying nation, and after the attack I'd talk to him," Giuliani said.



From: Around. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Victor Von Mediaboy
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 554

posted 12 February 2002 04:56 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
William Lyon Mackenzie King would be proud.
From: A thread has merit only if I post to it. So sayeth VVMB! | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
DrConway
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 490

posted 12 February 2002 04:57 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
*Coughs up hairball*
From: You shall not side with the great against the powerless. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
meades
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 625

posted 12 February 2002 05:20 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
*snicker*

[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: meades ]


From: Sault Ste. Marie | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Trespasser
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 1204

posted 12 February 2002 05:25 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Man of his age, and this was the first time he learned that there's this thing called Question Period in British parliamentarianism.

I kinda miss good old days of political dissent in the city of New York... when New Yorkers called their mayor a 'homegrown fascist', abhored his methods of policing that relied on racial profiling, and were annoyed by his enforcement of the ancient cabaret by-laws that prohibited dancing in some clubs... I still have a leaflet from one of the countless demos in front of the City Hall that says: Do we need another reason to stop the mayor!

Good ol' days...


From: maritimes | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged
ronb
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2116

posted 12 February 2002 05:29 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Remember when he floated the idea of moving crosswalks to the middle of blocks so cars wouldn't be inconvenienced by pedestrians crossing at intersections? What a loon.
From: gone | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged
Doug
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 44

posted 12 February 2002 05:35 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At least he's an effective loon, not like our Mel.
From: Toronto, Canada | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged
sheep
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2119

posted 12 February 2002 06:02 PM      Profile for sheep     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For all of his faults, he was the right man for the job after September 11.
From: Vancouver | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged
Trespasser
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 1204

posted 12 February 2002 06:20 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ronb, I didn't hear that one! He used to surpass himself every other day with new proposals, tho'.

And when he revealed to the media that the unarmed Haitian man killed by police officers had a tiny criminal record... priceless.

One of the buttons that his people made during that Senate campaign stint: What Vince Foster Knew?


From: maritimes | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged
Secret Agent Style
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2077

posted 12 February 2002 07:19 PM      Profile for Secret Agent Style        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
For all of his faults, he was the right man for the job after September 11.

I'm just wondering what he did that was so special compared to what any other mayor would do in the same situation. What else could he have done? Cry like a baby, wet his pants and get on a plane to Florida?


From: classified | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged
sheep
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2119

posted 12 February 2002 07:37 PM      Profile for sheep     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
He was the model of a cool, calm and collected leader. He showed compassion, urged restraint, was honest, and helped drive home the message not to blame the muslim community for the atrocity. People in New York really needed that after Sept 11.
From: Vancouver | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged
vaudree
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 1331

posted 12 February 2002 08:38 PM      Profile for vaudree     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In otherwords he was able to capitalize on the situation.

There were things he said that scared me after 9-11. He was able to give a voice to the headless chicken such disasters create. He was one of them, but not as frail. He gave compassion and acted like it was a part of his own body that was blowen away. He gave direction and no one cared where it led.

Note GWB wearing his Airforce windbreaker and sitting with the atheletes - that is the best way to market a person like him.


From: Just outside St. Boniface | Registered: Sep 2001  |  IP: Logged
Trespasser
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 1204

posted 12 February 2002 09:43 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm with Andy on this one. In situations like 911, the media and the mass badly need a fatherly figure to cling to - a figure that would not necessarily do much, just be visible and tell something comforting every once in a while. A strawman would have done an equally good if not better job than W. during the early days of the catastrophe, and his popularity is still high months later. For Giuliani too, I think his turning into a NYC messiah has more to do with personal projections of people involved in a disaster than with anything he'd said or done.

Now I remember - Wayne Barrett is the name of the Village Voice journalist who wrote a very good political bio of Giuliani.


From: maritimes | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged
Trespasser
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 1204

posted 12 February 2002 10:30 PM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This link deserves a separate post:

Wayne Barrett, The Reflective Rudy:On September 10, who would've thought all this mythmaking was possible?

quote:
What did I do for all this revisionism? I held a few resolute press conferences. People were stunned that with thousands dead, I sounded caring. I nearly got killed in the Barclay Street building because my handpicked bunker was the first to blow up. It turned out that all the missing numbers I gave out were junk. I politicized the performances from the get-go by permitting the only Democrat I liked, Peter Vallone, to stand at my side. Then I tried to use the chaos to get me another term. Nothing mattered; the myth had taken on a steamrolling life of its own.

[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: Trespasser ]


From: maritimes | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged

All times are Pacific Time  

Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | rabble.ca | Policy Statement

Copyright 2001-2008 rabble.ca