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jeff house
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posted 01 December 2006 11:06 AM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
NATO's top commander in Afghanistan said Sunday the country was at a tipping point and warned Afghans would likely switch their allegiance to resurgent Taliban militants if there are no visible improvements in people's lives in the next six months.

Gen. David Richards, a British officer who commands NATO's 32,000 troops here, warned in an interview with The Associated Press that if life doesn't get better over the winter, most Afghans could switch sides.

"They will say, 'We do not want the Taliban but then we would rather have that austere and unpleasant life that that might involve than another five years of fighting,"' Richards said.

6 months is plenty of time

From: toronto | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
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posted 01 December 2006 11:15 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Which would likely be a-ok with the west anyway. The original goal of operation condor was to stop the spread of secular socialism in that region of the world. The Talibanization of Pakistan and Afghanistan has managed to achieve just that. Mission accomplished. And any opportunity to create markets for Keynesian-militarism in addition to mission accomplished is just gravy. It's been a tough market for the megadeath industry since the Soviets ceded the cold war. They're running out of enemies. It's small market death and destruction nowadays, but it's been tough all over since the marketing extravaganza of shock and appall has fallen into disrepute. Personally, I think military stocks are overvalued and headed for a market correction.

Like McNamara said about Viet Nam, they might have been more successful dropping cases of Budweiser on them. Bombs and bullets have failed to win hearts and minds again. Who knew ?. Of course, socialists would have said to try dropping schools, hospitals and trade on them first. But no, they wanted to start from scratch. Now it's square one again. Hopefully the Iraqi's will install another despot themselves this time and leave the CIA out of it. Future speculation in world chaos markets will be counting on it.

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From: Viva La Revolución | Registered: Apr 2004  |  IP: Logged
M. Spector
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posted 28 January 2007 10:26 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
“Afghanistan was supposed to be the good war,” bemoaned the New York Times in the editorial I quoted earlier. But the war in Afghanistan has been an imperial adventure from the beginning, despite the fact that many supposedly on the left, applauded it at the time as a “just war.” In reality, it was designed to reassert U.S. power after September 11, to prepare the ground for an invasion of Iraq, to insert the U.S. military in a crucial strategic region, and to gain access to Central Asian oil and gas supplies. One thing it was never about was bringing to justice the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks. According to Bob Woodward’s insider account in Bush at War, by September 13 then-Secretary of State Colin Powell had already noted, “Bush was tired of rhetoric. The president wanted to kill somebody.”

A few days later, Bush ordered Powell to send an ultimatum to the Taliban government demanding that they turn over Osama bin-Laden or “We’ll attack them with missiles, bombers and boots on the ground.” Bush added, “Let’s hit them hard. We want to signal this is a change from the past. We want to cause other countries like Syria and Iran to change their views. We want to hit as soon as possible.” But when Mullah Omar responded that he would be prepared to extradite bin-Laden if the U.S. provided evidence implicating him in the 9/11 events, his offer was ignored.

The Australian journalist John Pilger reports that “in late September and early October [2001], leaders of Pakistan’s two Islamic parties negotiated bin-Laden’s extradition to Pakistan to stand trial for the September 11 attacks. According to reports in Pakistan (and the Daily Telegraph), this had both bin-Laden’s approval and that of Mullah Omar, the Taliban leader.” But this deal too was rejected. According to Pilger, “The U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan was notified in advance of the proposal and the mission to put it to the Taliban. Later, a U.S. official said that ‘casting our objectives too narrowly’ risked ‘a premature collapse of the international effort if by some luck chance Mr. bin Laden was captured.’” In other words, the opportunity to go to war was not to be squandered.

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