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Snuckles
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posted 23 April 2005 09:10 AM      Profile for Snuckles   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Molson Canada is buying Creemore Springs Brewing Co., a small Ontario microbrewery that makes what connoisseurs say is one of Canada's finest beers.

The purchase price was not disclosed, but industry sources said Molson paid about $25-million for the privately-held brewery.


That sucks. Creemore was one of my favourite beers. So now it is part of the evil Molson/Coors/Heritage Foundation empire.

Read it here.


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radiorahim
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posted 23 April 2005 08:07 PM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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That sucks. Creemore was one of my favourite beers. So now it is part of the evil Molson/Coors/Heritage Foundation empire.

Yeah...they'll screw up one of the best beers in Canada. Creemore Springs is one of only about half a dozen Canadian beers that's good enough to make it into the "beer books".


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Stephen Gordon
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posted 23 April 2005 08:18 PM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mixed emotions here. In the best-case scenario, Molson's leaves Creemore alone, and they make use of their distribution networks to sell Creemore in Quebec. But I'm very much afraid that it will result in the destruction of my favourite beer.

[Anecdote: There was some story published to the effect that early on in Creemore's existence, they called in an American beer connaisseur to ask him what he thought. He came. He tasted. He paused, tasted again, and paused again for what seemed to be an eternity. The Creemore people finally asked if there was a problem. 'Oh no,' said the startled beer expert, 'I'm just trying to decide whether or not this is the best or just the second-best beer brewed in North America.']


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Agent 204
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posted 23 April 2005 08:20 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pity. I've never tried Creemore (lately I've been drinking Red Cap, to support my local microbrewery) but I've heard good things about it.
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Catchfire
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posted 23 April 2005 09:02 PM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Creemore is one of my two favourite beers in Canada. After Moosehead buying McAuslan, and Sleeman buying Unibroue, the writing is on the wall for microbreweries. Please, please, please don't ruin this beer. Is there any information on who will continue to run the Creemore Springs brewery?

This is terrible news. I hope I'm overreacting.


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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 23 April 2005 09:16 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Snuckles:
[QB]

That sucks. Creemore was one of my favourite beers. So now it is part of the evil Molson/Coors/Heritage Foundation empire.

Two things: one, and I don't mean to sound like an idiot, but what is the connection beween Molson and Coors (which I refuse to drink) and the Heritage Foundation?

Second, save a few of the unadulterated Creemores for me when I get to Toronto in July.


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Snuckles
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posted 23 April 2005 10:04 PM      Profile for Snuckles   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Américain Égalitaire:
Two things: one, and I don't mean to sound like an idiot, but what is the connection beween Molson and Coors (which I refuse to drink) and the Heritage Foundation?

Second, save a few of the unadulterated Creemores for me when I get to Toronto in July.


Molson and Coors merged sometime last year I think, and became the world's 5th largest brewer.

Joseph Coors was one of the original founders/funders of the Heritage Foundation; which, according to their website:

quote:
. . .is a research and educational institute - a think tank - whose mission is to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.

Whether Coors is still involved in the Heritage Foundation, I don't know. According to Wikipedia people like the Rev. Sun Myung Moon and Richard Melonhead Scaife have been involved with the HF over the years.

Peter Coors ran for a senate seat in Colorado last year, but lost.

[ 23 April 2005: Message edited by: Snuckles ]


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Rufus Polson
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posted 24 April 2005 01:54 AM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Clearly, we need co-op microbreweries, so it's harder for them to be taken over. Now that would be a progressive business!
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rasmus
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posted 24 April 2005 02:15 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Allegedly, Molson wants to keep the same staff, the same recipe, etc. as always. There is a "single point of contact" between the two companies, namely the VP of business development at Molson, who says his job is to "keep Molson away from Creemore". At the same time, the company wants to expand sales and distribution of Creemore, and cites Sleeman as an example of a beer whose sales expanded 1000% and allegedly maintained its original standards. I barely remember the original Sleemans, but right now they are just a fancy brand of piss in a clear bottle. I suspect that Creemore, too, will become Peemore in no time.

Canada is about 20 years behind the US in terms of microbreweries. Creemore is a fine lager. St. Andre in Guelph also makes some fine lagers. I am not a lager fan myself, so my current favourite beer is Mill Street Tankhouse Ale from the Mill Street brewery here in Toronto -- it's on tap at a few bars around town, e.g. the Victory on Markham. It is so much better on tap. Their Coffee Porter is also very good. Ste. Ambroise Oatmeal Stout is still a fine stout, albeit with a sweet finish. Black Oak comes on strong but has a watery finish and this annoys me.


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Agent 204
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posted 24 April 2005 08:51 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Rufus Polson:
Clearly, we need co-op microbreweries, so it's harder for them to be taken over. Now that would be a progressive business!

Well, there's the Great Western Brewing Company, founded by laid-off Molson/Carling O'Keefe workers. They fit more into the discount rather than the premium niche, though (most of their products come in 2-litre bottles and are meant to be drunk under bridges).


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skdadl
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posted 24 April 2005 09:32 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thorfinn would not be pleased to hear this news.
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 24 April 2005 01:50 PM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Snuckles:

Thanks for refreshing my memory, I had completely forgotten about that and although I knew about the Senate race, I didn't realize there was a HF connection.

We have a beer store here that stocks about as many imports as you'll find in Iowa so I'll have to check out if they have any Canadian micros.


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The Hegemo
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posted 24 April 2005 02:01 PM      Profile for The Hegemo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This does suck. Creemore is an excellent beer, and I don't trust Molson's assurances they're not going to dumb it down. Not to mention the whole nasty Coors right wing connection. Sigh...

Is Brick still independent?

AE -- the only Canadian micro/semi-micro that seems to get much distribution down here (at least in OH/KY, may be different in Iowa) is Unibroue, whose beers include Maudite, La Fin du Monde, Blanche de Chambly, etc. They're widely available at specialty shops/overpriced yuppie grocery stores (i.e. Wild Oats). I'm a big fan of their beers, especially Trois Pistoles and Blanche de Chambly. I haven't ever found La Bolduc outside of Quebec, though.

I have spotted Sleeman's once or twice at either Jungle Jim's in Fairfield or The Party Source in Bellevue, KY. They make an okay beer, although I've always kind of been against Sleeman's because they sell their beer in clear bottles.

Didn't Sleeman's buy Upper Canada at some point? They used to make great beers in the early-mid 1990s, but really went downhill. I can't even remember the last time I had an Upper Canada beer.


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Agent 204
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posted 24 April 2005 02:57 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Originally posted by The Hegemo:

Is Brick still independent?


I believe it is, yes. They recently bought the rights to the aforementioned Red Cap (whose previous incarnation died out decades ago) and are putting it out- in old-style stubbies! Cool, and it also makes it easier to fit a 12 into my packsack. Red Cap is currently my brand of choice, and will likely continue to be- at least as long as I'm living in Waterloo Region.

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I have spotted Sleeman's once or twice at either Jungle Jim's in Fairfield or The Party Source in Bellevue, KY. They make an okay beer, although I've always kind of been against Sleeman's because they sell their beer in clear bottles.

Didn't Sleeman's buy Upper Canada at some point? They used to make great beers in the early-mid 1990s, but really went downhill. I can't even remember the last time I had an Upper Canada beer.



Yeah, Sleeman's did buy Upper Canada. I like Sleeman's, actually (I usually buy it if I can't find Brick products) and when I have beer I usually don't keep it lying around long enough for the clear bottles to become a problem.

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Albireo
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posted 24 April 2005 03:27 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This thread is the first I'd heard of this.

Boo-hoo...

I LOVE Creemore, and I despise Molson/Coors.


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