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ottawaobserver
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posted 29 October 2008 06:19 PM      Profile for ottawaobserver     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
National Newswatch is reporting this again (and actually fishing for details if anyone has them, although I doubt anyone on this list does), and Conservative blogger Stephen Taylor appears to be the source, based on this blogpost

So, the question becomes ... which recently-elected Quebec Liberal MP or MPs would cross the floor? Or could it be a Senator?

Actually, when I looked at the list of who they elected in Quebec in the recent election, the first name that jumped out at me was Marc Garneau. Which would pretty much give us the seat of Westmount-Ville Marie next time around.

Or perhaps the former Quebec Lieutenant Marcel Proulx from Hull-Aylmer (ditto on the seat)?

Or Francis Scarpalegggia from the West Island?

I guess if Senator Hervieux-Payette is grouchy enough she might go over.

Irwin Cotler has unequivocally ruled himself out, by the way, but he was the early rumoured choice for Foreign Affairs.

Anyways, it should be fun to speculate.


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posted 29 October 2008 06:27 PM      Profile for adma     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I wouldn't be surprised if it happens to be Francis Scarpaleggia.

From Wikipedia:

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Scarpaleggia was one of a small minority of Liberal MPs to vote against Bill C-38, which formally legalized same-sex marriage in Canada in accordance with a ruling by the judiciary.

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Scarpaleggia once again broke with his party and voted with the Conservative government to re-open the same-sex marriage debate on December 7, 2006 (see Members of the 39th Canadian Parliament and same-sex marriage), the only Quebec Liberal MP to do so.

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ottawaobserver
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posted 29 October 2008 06:30 PM      Profile for ottawaobserver     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Wasn't he one of Dion's early supporters? Of course he did have the neighbouring riding, so I guess that's only polite.
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posted 29 October 2008 06:33 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
My money's on Justin.
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posted 29 October 2008 06:48 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It's actually Stephane Dion. The fix was in all along.
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posted 29 October 2008 06:48 PM      Profile for asterix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Hey, Stephane Dion needs a job...
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posted 29 October 2008 06:48 PM      Profile for miles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
it could be marlene jennings
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posted 29 October 2008 06:50 PM      Profile for genstrike   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
My money's on Justin.

I don't know, Stephane would also be a good bet


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posted 29 October 2008 06:54 PM      Profile for ottawaobserver     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by miles:
it could be marlene jennings

That would be another good seat for us, so I hope she does cross.


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posted 29 October 2008 06:58 PM      Profile for ottawaobserver     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh, it couldn't be Denis Coderre, could it? That would be too much to hope for...
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posted 29 October 2008 06:59 PM      Profile for miles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
ottawa who is the us you keep referring to?
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posted 29 October 2008 07:06 PM      Profile for janfromthebruce     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It just goes to show there isn't much difference between Cons and Libs when they can so easily walk across the floor before the House evens seats. So here we go again, with the Emerson waltz.
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posted 29 October 2008 07:10 PM      Profile for ottawaobserver     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by miles:
ottawa who is the us you keep referring to?

Sorry, Miles, I guess I'm wearing my orange heart on my sleeve. My assumption is that if any of those Liberals cross the floor to the Conservatives, the NDP is well-situated to win the seat next time out as we did in Vancouver Kingsway. In particular, Westmount Ville-Marie and NDG-Lachine East.


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posted 29 October 2008 07:12 PM      Profile for janfromthebruce     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Pierrefonds – Dollard, PATRY, Bernard (M) whose next closest competitor was the con.
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posted 29 October 2008 07:27 PM      Profile for Malcolm   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
A rose, by any other name, would smell.
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I've always suspected that Alan Tonks in YORK SOUTH-WESTON would be a possible defector to the Conservatives, if it meant a cabinet post!

Another of the 'anti-choice/Liberals for Life' crowd, he would fit right in with many of Harper's crew.


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posted 29 October 2008 08:02 PM      Profile for West Coast Lefty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Or perhaps the former Quebec Lieutenant Marcel Proulx from Hull-Aylmer (ditto on the seat)?

Or Francis Scarpalegggia from the West Island?


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Pierrefonds – Dollard, PATRY, Bernard (M) whose next closest competitor was the con.

Those would be my 3 main suspects for potential floor-crossers in the Quebec LPC caucus,such as it is. The only other name that occured to me was Laval MP Raymonde Folco, who has a perpetual hate-on for Dion. But she seems to be somewhat on the progressive side, for a Lib, so I doubt she'd actually join the Harper caucus.

Proulx - after getting dumped by Dion as Qubec lieutenant for the disastrous Céline Hervieux-Payette, he's long in the tooth and knows his chances of getting into gov't with the Grits are slim to none. He may pull an Emerson and grab a Cabinet seat with Harper, and then not run again to avoid facing the wrath of his constituents.

Scarpalegggia - I agree with the comments earlier in the thread, he is the most likely to cross the floor Thursday AM.

Patry - a total opportunist who will be a permanent backbencher in gov't or opposition under the Libs, given their dominance of anglo Montreal. The downside is that he will never get elected in his riding as a Tory, and he's not as old as Proulx and will want to stick around, unless he's angling for a plum patronage post from Harper before the next election.


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posted 29 October 2008 08:24 PM      Profile for ghoris     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Looking at NationalNewsWatch, Bourque, and other news sites, it seems that the latest 'confirmed' news is that Lawrence Cannon will be Foreign Affairs minister (although he will no longer be political minister for Quebec). Apparently Jim Flaherty, Jim Prentice, Peter MacKay and Stockwell Day are expected to keep their current jobs but most of the rest will be shuffled, including John Baird and Tony Clement. (Although CTV is suggesting that Prentice will go to Environment and Clement will take over Industry, with Baird going to Transport.)

Rumoured promotions: Jay Hill will likely become House Leader, Christian Paradis is set to become Quebec lieutenant, Diane Ablonczy may replace Clement at Health, and Rona Ambrose may get Monte Solberg's old job.

Rumoured demotions: Helena Guergis, Josee Verner, Gordon O'Connor (may take over Jay Hill's job as chief government whip).

In terms of new ministers, Jason Kenney is being widely tipped for the Immigration post. James Moore will become a full minister, the current chatter seems to be Heritage or Environment.
Gail Shea and Leona Aglukkaq are said to be shoo-ins for at least junior posts. John Duncan seems to be the favourite for Fisheries but Gail Shea is a candidate. There is lots of speculation that GTA MPs Lisa Raitt, Peter Kent and Bob Dechert will all make it into Cabinet.

The talking points coming out of the PMO are that there will be a record number of women in this new cabinet, which likely means that in addition to Lisa Raitt, Leona Aglukkaq and Gail Shea, other female MPs like Shelley Glover, Lynne Yelich and Alice Wong may get appointments too.

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posted 29 October 2008 11:31 PM      Profile for ottawaobserver     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
CTV reported tonight that Prentice is going to environment and Clement is going to industry. Baird is supposed to be going to transport. He's totally over the top in the house and very partisan, but it occurred to me that putting him or James Moore into Health might have been the best chance to save InSite. Maybe Ablonczy would not be totally unreasonable on this either.

Stephen Taylor seems to be backing off the floor-crossing rumours a bit now, at least in his responses to commenters on his blogpost.

It could also be the case that this was all just a tactic on the part of the Conservatives to sow some additional dissent amongst Quebec Liberals, who are all fighting right now over Senator Hervieux-Payette's continuing role as Quebec lieutenant and Senate Opposition Leader. Anything to aid and assist in keeping the Liberals looking back over their shoulders all the time, I suppose. Doug Finlay's parting shot?


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posted 30 October 2008 11:45 AM      Profile for ottawaobserver     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by ottawaobserver:
It could also be the case that this was all just a tactic on the part of the Conservatives to sow some additional dissent amongst Quebec Liberals, who are all fighting right now over Senator Hervieux-Payette's continuing role as Quebec lieutenant and Senate Opposition Leader. Anything to aid and assist in keeping the Liberals looking back over their shoulders all the time, I suppose. Doug Finlay's parting shot?

Yeah, it was probably that. I still think they would have taken Cotler if they could have got him.


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