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Brent Fullard
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posted 16 December 2007 03:59 PM      Profile for Brent Fullard        Edit/Delete Post
Mark Carney has hijacked our parliamentary democracy with his manufactured claims of tax leakage


I am of the view that income trusts have no right to exist if they cause material tax leakage of the magnitude that Mark Carney claims. Such would also hold true for private income trust and private limited partnerships. Since tax fairness requires a universal approach.

Too bad the analysis that supports the thesis of tax leakage has been deliberately manufactured by Mark Carney to achieve ulterior ends, none of which serve the interests of Canadians. The act of manufacturing tax leakage has empowered Mark Carney to introduce a sweeping tax measure that Parliament approved, believing they were addressing a legitimate problem through legitimate measures.

The alleged problem of tax leakage is only as legitimate as the analysis that underlies it. The true intent of Parliament is only achieved if the underlying premise of tax leakage is true. In the absence of truth about tax leakage, Mark Carney will have hijacked our parliamentary democracy to achieve outside interests and extremely narrow interests. That makes the $35 billion in losses sustained by average Canadians seem like chicken feed for anyone who believes in democracy.

As for Mark Carney’s manufacturing capabilities and handiwork:

Insofar as tax leakage is a measure of the difference in taxes collected by a business structured as a corporation versus the same business strucyured as an income trust, how credible do you think it is for Mark Carney to have approached his analysis on the following approach;

(1) Making the steady state assumption throughout his forward looking analysis that corporations are taxed at today’s statutory tax rate of 22%, which ignores that corporate tax rates are to be reduced to 15% by the year 2012, including legislated reductions already passed into law. As such he is not modeling the real world, and is profoundly and misleadingly biasing his results in favour of corporations

(2) Assigning zero value to the taxes that are collected by Ottawa from the income trusts held in RRSPs, even though the trust policy permits/encourages pension funds to acquire income trusts and not be subject to the new 31.5% tax and even though these future taxes paid by RRSPs are very easily and accurately determined. Their value is of immense value to the Government. Any Goldman Sachs employee would tell you so. For example, the total assets presently held in RRSPs roughly equals Canada’s national debt. The deferred taxes collected on annual withdrawals from RRSP’s services about 25% of the annual interest servicing costs on Canada’s outstanding debt, allowing more of today’s taxes to be devoted to funding today’s social programs (in answer to Flaherty’s stated concern). The act of Mark Carney ignoring these vast amount of taxes paid by income trusts is without any credible financial or economic rationale.

Just ask Jack Mintz who stated “Finance was wrong to treat the impact as zero.” Better yet, speak to Dennis Bruce, since unlike Jack Mintz, Dennis Bruce is independent

(3) Overestimating the value of income trusts that are held by RRSPs. Industry numbers indicate 31% of trust are held in RRSPs. Mark Carney assumes 38%. Since Mark Carney assigns zero value to the taxes paid by income trusts in RRSP, this pumping up to 38%, only results in further skewing the manufactured results, by ignoring more of the taxes paid by income trusts.

To date $1,368 million in real tax losses have occurred because of Mark Carney’s income trust policy........in the effort to stem an alleged $500 million tax leakage problem. How much more wrong could a policy be than to achieve the direct opposite of its stated purpose?

No wonder Mark Carney was downsized form Goldman Sachs and wound up in Ottawa. All of which reminds me of the comment of senior finance official Brian Ernwein at the public hearings: “I guess, if we were incompetent we wouldn’t admit to it:”

It’s time to admit to it folks. Failing which it’s time to heed the Green Party’s and Liberal Party’s call for a public inquiry on alleged tax leakage. Who gains from hiding the facts? Certainly not taxpayers who will be left to pick up Mark Carney’s tab as he flits off to the Bank of Canada.


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jester
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posted 16 December 2007 07:56 PM      Profile for jester        Edit/Delete Post
Hmmm... No-one down at the seniors' center interested in discussing trusts?
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Brent Fullard
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posted 17 December 2007 07:53 AM      Profile for Brent Fullard        Edit/Delete Post
jester jested:

"Hmmm... No-one down at the seniors' center interested in discussing trusts?"

Evidently, upholding democratic processes is passe.

Have fun in Harper land. I jest not.


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jester
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posted 17 December 2007 08:33 AM      Profile for jester        Edit/Delete Post
Income trusts are a Ponzi Scheme that attract unsophisticated investors hungry for a better ROI.

The disgruntled victims refuse to stop annoying others with their grievances as evidenced by the spamming of trust topics by posters who do not otherwise contribute to the community.

While I as a bonafide codger have a passing interest, much akin to viewing the aftermath of a train wreck, in the subject,most of this community are more attuned to social justice than lynching Wee Jimmy.

Not to say that they would not gleefully participate-just not for reasons of yours.


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