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trippie
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posted 03 July 2007 09:07 PM      Profile for trippie        Edit/Delete Post
http://www.thestar.com/living/Religion/article/231974


here is my favourite part of the article...

quote:
The findings suggest the least educated were most likely to be creationists, as were respondents living in rural Canada.

but of course the Star tries to portay an image that most people believe in a god creation link as their title suggestes. But if fact that numbers say that ....

quote:
34 per cent of those polled said humans developed over millions of years under a process guided by God; 26 per cent said God created humans alone within the last 10,000 years or so; and 29 per cent said they believe evolution occurred with no help from God.

So thats 34% that are sitting on the fence but understand that evolution played a part...

26 % taht believe in god and creation

and 29 % that do not believe in a god and understand evolution.....


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thorin_bane
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posted 04 July 2007 09:34 AM      Profile for thorin_bane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I think that 26 % is a little high...our education system is not doing enough...or are there that many private christian schools out there. Wow at least now you know where 26% of the cons votes come from.
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Policywonk
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posted 04 July 2007 08:19 PM      Profile for Policywonk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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and 29 % that do not believe in a god and understand evolution.....

Not the same as believing evolution occurred with no help from God.


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500_Apples
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posted 04 July 2007 08:43 PM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
trippie, why did you really like the part that said people in rural canada are more likely to believe in creationism?
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trippie
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posted 05 July 2007 10:25 AM      Profile for trippie        Edit/Delete Post
I like that part becuase it further conferms my opinion on why people believe in a god.

I think people beleive in a god becuase at some point they are uneducated or feel helpless...

In rural areas it is easy to feel alone and at the mercy of nature.

If you look at the south in the USA you see a lot of religion. At the same time you see a lot of poverty and undereducation...

In the middle east the people feel helpless against their governments and conditions of life. At the same time you see a lot of religion...

As people feel safer and are more educated they tend to loose the need for a god to help them out....

When it comes to the evelution of humans, people did not understand how we got here... It was easy to believe in creation. As human intelegence increases then need for this explination disapates...

If you look at the economic and education system in Canada you can see the results in this poll.

Even though the paper was trying to twist the results, the fact remained. Most people are moving from the belief in creation towards the understanding of evelution.

I say this because the belief in creation came before the understanding of evelution.

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trippie
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posted 05 July 2007 10:33 AM      Profile for trippie        Edit/Delete Post
So now the question remains... Why did the Toronto Star have a miss leading title for the poll results...???

To answer this question is to understand why 34% of respondents were sitting on the fence....

The capitalist have been using religion to maintain power for a long time...

Just look at the British use of the Salvation Army and the USA governments use of faith based organisations to deliver programs to the disadvantages ...

[ 05 July 2007: Message edited by: trippie ]


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Azih
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posted 06 July 2007 05:00 AM      Profile for Azih     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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So thats 34% that are sitting on the fence but understand that evolution played a part
The Star is being much more balanced than you are trippie. There's no sitting on the fence in that option.

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Jingles
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posted 06 July 2007 06:33 AM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
What are you talking about? If you believe that people evolved over millions of years in a natural process, yet still feel the need to insert the supernatural for no bloody reason, then you are confused about the whole thing.

The supernatural only remains as a factor in evolution for those too timid to take that last step and discard those dogmatic traditions which celebrate ignorance over knowledge.


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JayPotts
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posted 06 July 2007 06:40 AM      Profile for JayPotts   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by trippie:
I like that part becuase it further conferms my opinion on why people believe in a god.

I think people beleive in a god becuase at some point they are uneducated or feel helpless...

In rural areas it is easy to feel alone and at the mercy of nature.

If you look at the south in the USA you see a lot of religion. At the same time you see a lot of poverty and undereducation...

In the middle east the people feel helpless against their governments and conditions of life. At the same time you see a lot of religion...

As people feel safer and are more educated they tend to loose the need for a god to help them out....

When it comes to the evelution of humans, people did not understand how we got here... It was easy to believe in creation. As human intelegence increases then need for this explination disapates...

If you look at the economic and education system in Canada you can see the results in this poll.

Even though the paper was trying to twist the results, the fact remained. Most people are moving from the belief in creation towards the understanding of evelution.

I say this because the belief in creation came before the understanding of evelution.

[ 05 July 2007: Message edited by: trippie ]


I find a lot of people have a firm belief in God educated or not but when it comes to the creation question most on them are sketchy on the details.
So even though people may dither on the details I think there is a very strong belief in God.


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JayPotts
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posted 06 July 2007 08:11 AM      Profile for JayPotts   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
There are two threads with this same topic the other one in the humanities and science section, maybe someone should join them.
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