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posted 02 February 2005 04:29 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
While it's true that they're a right-wing party and that they have ties to the American right, the party was created because secularist right-wingers wanting an alternative to the the Tories could not oust the old-guard Bible thumpers from the Socreds.

In case you're wondering though, the friend in question is more a Red Tory-type now after going through a few personal crises that made him rethink his political positions...It may not sound like a huge leap, but considering that he was a very high-ranking Rob Anders staffer and now descrimes himself as a "Jesse Helms-conservative at the time", it's a huge step forward. (Admit it. In a theoretical election betwen Belind@ and Helms, every single person on this board would line up for miles to vote for the former if they had to...lol)

He also gave me some insight into why Anders was able to stay alive against a tough opponent in his riding's nomination race: While the guy's a lousy parliamentarian and an extremist and has done nothing for his riding, he's an incredible organiser and administrator and knows how to get his base out when the going gets tough (And before you say that it's nothing to be able to do that, consider that the Trotsky was lightyears ahead of Stalin in everything but organisational/administrative skills and the latter ended up coming on top. I know it's an odd analogy, and comparing even Anders to Stalin is a bit much, but it's the best I can do.), and once he gets out of any tough nomination races, he has clear sailing in a Calgary riding that would vote Tory if the party were taken over by Nazi of Montreal is the same way with Liberals and Mount Royal is far worse in this regard than even apologists. (Not picking on Calgarians here: Much the most reactionary of Alberta ridings.)


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posted 02 February 2005 04:32 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I believe I know your friend.
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posted 02 February 2005 05:07 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
If you're in AGS, which I believe you are, you certainly ought to.
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posted 02 February 2005 05:18 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
AGS?
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posted 02 February 2005 05:20 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post
A gelatinous state
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posted 02 February 2005 05:27 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Do you think the Vote Out Anders! campaign had much effect in the last election? Their website said he got 55% of the vote when he should have gotten 75%. They say they will set up a new website soon.
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posted 02 February 2005 05:45 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I don't think it had any significant effect.
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arborman
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posted 02 February 2005 10:08 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Heywood do you know people on Anders' current staff? I'm related to one of them - we agree on many things, but politically are at opposite ends of the world. He is the family genealogist though, which is cool.
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posted 02 February 2005 11:57 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Let me get this straight: this guy you know left the Tories for being too Bible-thumper for the Alberta Alliance, a party led by a latter-day saint?
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posted 03 February 2005 12:16 AM      Profile for Leuca     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
(Admit it. In a theoretical election betwen Belind@ and Helms, every single person on this board would line up for miles to vote for the former if they had to...lol)

I didn't want Belinda to win the leadership of the Conservative Party, at least not at this time. But there are some things I like about her. She believes in doing the right thing, for the people. She has a good heart. She's trustworthy and straigtforward. These are all characteristics I admire. On the other hand, she's politically inexperienced, verging on naive. And I don't know if she has the 'killer instinct' one needs to succeed in politics. She may be too trusting of others, even enemies. Time will tell if she has the stuff. She is the only 'left of center' right winger I would even consider supporting if she can overcome some of her current downfalls.

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posted 03 February 2005 12:28 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh, hell, I wanted Belinda to win, definitely. Would have made for Front Page Comedy - a new TV series - every night. Or Belinda's Daily Fashion Gaffe. The cartoonists will have a field day with her, more than they do with PM Dithers. Belinda and Mackay will be an editorial cartoonist's wet dream. Canada will be interesting again. Jay Leno will have his daily Canadian "Huh?" Quote.
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posted 03 February 2005 12:48 AM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by arborman:
Heywood do you know people on Anders' current staff? I'm related to one of them - we agree on many things, but politically are at opposite ends of the world. He is the family genealogist though, which is cool.

Some. He had some staff changes and I don't know all the new ones.


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posted 03 February 2005 11:34 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I think he's been there for a few years. Definitely an Alliance stalwart.
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